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still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight loss.
Category: Health > Conditions and Diseases Asked by: richardj34-ga List Price: $50.00 |
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01 Aug 2006 05:53 PDT
Expires: 31 Aug 2006 05:53 PDT Question ID: 751419 |
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Re: still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight loss.
From: ghost2006-ga on 01 Aug 2006 08:25 PDT |
Dear richarj34. How awful! I am not, unfortunately, a doctor, or have ever had experience with something like this (thank goodness!). Hope for you that you find a final answer here on GA. In the meantime, I have some thoughts about it, and I hope they may help a bit. I would think that this is clearly a repeating, not a cronic situation. I would therefore consider it likely that there is a trigger of some sort, and since all tests have come out basically negative, I would try, if you can, to identify the trigger. This trigger should be something that is seldom present in your life, So: 1) First: below, I am talking about several lists you will have to make. Please look at them first, and then come back and read the rest of this point. 1a) Then: can you think back to each of the episodes, (starting with the most recent), and identify if you were doing at the time (say within the five days prior to your first symptom) that was unusual or rare for you? Such as: - New drug(s) (over the counter, prescription, illegal, omeopatic, anything) - New food or a change of diet - New activity - New stress, such as moving, byuing a car, getting married, etc. (I believe you are lucky that you are a man, I think if you were a woman you likely would have been diagnosed with PMS or a mental problems or "acute fatigue symtoms". Forgive the little bit of bitterness here. On the other hand, apart from PMS, all of those could possibly be valid in your case). - Temperature extremes - Extremes of any kind (physical or mental or spiritual) - Etcetera for additions - Consider subtractions, something you stopped doing (applies to all of the above and the etceteras). - Consider anything else that might have changed, even minimal 2) Make a list, as complete as possible, of all the things you found above for the latest episode. 2a) Note: I would suggest that you get well organized before starting the lists, to be able to find thngs! YOu could use Excel, Access, or other PC tools (which could sort data alphabetically, by date, by hour, by episode, etc). Also, do the outmost to enter dates / time, and leave a comment field for notes. If not PC tools, you could get a number of thick telephone agendas (with lots of pages for each letter) and use one for each tye of list. Do the same for each episode. 3) See if any of what you listed had happened the previous time. List all of those, and then list everythig else that happened the previous time, according to the list in number 1. 4) Keep going back as far as you remember. 5) See if you can find a pattern (good luck)! 6) If not, start keeping a daily diary of everything that goes through your mouth that you have not had for a while (mints at restaurants, cigars, whatever, antiacids, drinks, etc). Make sure to date (and name the day) and time of the happening 7) do the same (on separate sections of your diary) for anything unusual that: - you touch or touches you (silk, flowers, wool, new clothings, vynil - as in cars, people you meet seldom, etc.) - goes through your nose (stinks, perfumes, peas, etc.) - happens to you. - stresses you. 8) If you keep this up, the last two weeks prior to the next episode should be well documented. Then look back to the past episodes and see if you can find a trend. Best of luck. 9) Just a layman series of possibilities that may not look immediately appaerent. You may want to check these out (if you have not done so already): - To my knowledge, research says that spoiled fish (and other food) will cause intestinal problems a week or more (up to a month) after ingestion. - Food containing natural fibers (most fruits and vegetables, beans of course, etc) - If you do not have a listing of the allergens that your doctor has tested, get it. See what elso you shoud be tested for (such as anything not on the list that you do, eat, touch, smell etc on an unusual basis: check you lists) - Drugs interact in a weird way, sometimes. A few, give me leg cramps at night (which stop once I quit the drug). Some, that I normally take together with others, if taken a couple of hours apart cause me to get shortness of breath. Others (including the vitamine Niacine) give me weezing effects. To figure out the associations I have had to do just what I told you above. Think back on what was new / changed at the time. - Lastly, I did not see on your list of drugs taken any Gravol. I am sure you must have gotten it, together with a whole host of them you did not mention. Ina any case, hope this helps a bit. Again, I wish you all the best and a good answer. Cheers Ghost2006 |
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Re: still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight loss.
From: probonopublico-ga on 01 Aug 2006 09:38 PDT |
Like Ghost, I'm no doctor (and nor am I a ghost) but I have a friend who suffered from severe migraines for 30 years before he read a library book about allergies and discovered for himself that he was allergic to yeast ... And this was after visiting loads of doctors, specialists, clinics, etc. - somewhat similar to your experience. I note that you've already had 'complete food allergy skin prick test - no allergies/all negative' but were these really 'complete'? I suggest that allergy testing normally covers the most common suspects but that it is hardly likely (perhaps impossible?) to cover all. I therefore echo Ghost's advice that you should keep a detailed list of stuff you eat; places you go; animals you meet ... There has to be a trigger! And the next time you succumb (if there is a next time) analyse your list and see what you did prior to the attack ... Good Luck & Even Better Health! Bryan |
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Re: still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight loss.
From: kriswrite-ga on 01 Aug 2006 10:22 PDT |
If you are female, note any link to your cycle. Hormones can certainly make you quite nauseated and apt to vomit. Kriswrite |
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Re: still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight loss.
From: sonoritygenius-ga on 01 Aug 2006 19:25 PDT |
try to exercise vigorously.. buy energy drinks and dont eat solid foods for a day or 2 to see if symptoms alleviate.. I wonder if its a stomach tumor.. |
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Re: still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight loss.
From: pugwashjw65-ga on 01 Aug 2006 22:03 PDT |
Have your doctor do a test for CYTOMEGALOVIRUS. Its called a 'serology' test. The doctors do not worry all that much about it because nearly everybody HAS it. But for a small number of people, it can be devastating. It is also portentially harmful to pregnent women, like German Measles. Also have a look at your diet. Cut out completely WHEAT products, and replace them with products made from SPELT FLOUR. Spelt is an ancient form of grain, but is better absorbed. A family member went from 60 kgs. [not heavy] down to 35 kgs. before it was discovered about the bad effect of wheat. She is now back up to 56kg. Hope this helps. |
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Re: still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight loss.
From: health777-ga on 13 Aug 2006 15:07 PDT |
You might try Telemedecine as indicated in medicalcountries.org. Physicians, in other countries, cost as little as 1/20th of the U.S. equivalent experts. |
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Re: still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight loss.
From: linezolid-ga on 30 Aug 2006 02:42 PDT |
Has anyone mentioned the term "porphyria" to you? This group of diseases are inherited (or acquired) disorders of metabolism that can lead to cyclic problems such as you mentioned. Your symptoms are by no means classic, but could represent acute intermittant porphyria. Since the pophyrias are relatively rare, many doctors will not consider them. Fortunately, the diagnosis can be made fairly easily: urine porphyrins and porphobilinogen (which can be elevated even between attacks) must be sent. Good luck to you. |
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Re: still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight loss.
From: kikitina78-ga on 11 Sep 2006 14:07 PDT |
I have been having similar problems with digestion also. I have been to numerous doctors and had every test imaginable and been to specialists. My mom says I have been vomitting since I was a baby. My vomitting goes in spurts. It really started for me when I was about 7. I vomitted only after eating and not every time. I felt like eating small meals too. Usually after I threw up I would feel like eating. I had upper GI then and they couldn't tell me what was wrong. Then it started again in 5th grade. I had the same teacher as I had in 2nd grade so they thought I was worried about something. It went on through part of the summer and then stopped. Then in 8th grade the same thing happened. I miss lots of school and dropped down to about 80 pounds. I could stick my whole fist in my collar bone. Then I went to a gastroenteroligist. I had a scope done and I had ulcers in my stomach. He diagnosed me with eosinophilic gastroenteritis. This is basically I am allergic to certain foods. It made sense at the time, because when I would eat peanut butter then I would throw up about an hour later. I would continue to have stomachaches, but usually could tell when I shouldn't eat certain types of foods. They didn't always make me sick just sometimes. Then when I was in college I had choked on a pill and had to have a scope done. I found out I had scar tissue on my esophogus sphincter muscle and that my stomach looked like an 80 year old woman's stomache. I had holes all over in my stomach (ulcers). I have been on priloseic or nexium since I was 21. It has seemed to help me and I basically quit throwing up. When I was 23 I started getting allergy shots again. I was working in a school with no air conditioning, so I had sneezing fits all the time. I have gone to 3 allergists and they say I don't have eosinophilic gastroenteritis. They also tell me food allergy tests are inaccurate. Then last year my new insurance wouldn't pay for my priloseic so I had another scope done. I had ulcers at this time but not the bacteria that causes it. They still couldn't tell me what was wrong with me, but increased the priloseic to twice a day. I wasn't even throwing up or had any signs of ulcers. When my stomach hurts it is high just below my breast bone. I just moved to OK and now have been getting the stomachaches again. I have been on allergy shots for about 5 years. I have been sick these past few weeks with stomachaches and bad gas. I haven't thrown up, but I'm on the verge. I think it's because I have been outside for doing yard work. Yesterday, I took a nexium in the morning and then did yard work all day. In the evening I took a benedryl and then right before bed I took a zantac. I think my stomach problems are different then yours, but I wanted you to know someone else is out there who hasn't been diagnosed. I guess I'm going on 21 years with stomachaches. At least I've been able to control the vomitting for the past 6 or 7 years. |
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Re: still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight l
From: rhino334-ga on 17 Sep 2006 14:38 PDT |
I am sorry to hear about your sufferings. I am a medical biochemistry student with no formal training asyet but i have been around a medical laboratory and seen the range of tests that can be done for allergies to food items as well as other allergens like dust and pollen. You say you have had a 'skin prick test' and came up clear but there are many other tests based on a sample of blood taken that can be done. All the tests look at the ige levels in your blood in relation to a specific allergen. I have seen a list of about 60 different potential allergens that could be tested for so it could be hard to find but worth it in the end. Your doctor should be able to arrange these tests at an outpatients clinic. Good luck! Regards Rhino334 |
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Re: still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight l
From: agoencz-ga on 10 Oct 2006 18:05 PDT |
This is a bit late of a reply, but I had about the exact same symptoms. Went through a wealth of tests (including skin-test for allergies). No one could figure out what was wrong. Finally went to a gastro-enterologist... a REALLY good one. He made me keep a food log (which I was also terrible at). Then he did a different sort of test for food allergies. Not a skin test, but involving a blood sample. Sure enough it came back that I was allergic to Sesame Seeds. Years later the same problems started popping up with more frequency... re-ran tests and sure enough I was allergic to Milk protein. I avoid both of those like the plague and I'm generally symptom free except for a few mistakes here and there. I would really try to keep up the food journal and then before you have an episode closely examine it. See if there is any pattern at all and if all else fails try to get tested for the products you ate that wouldn't be covered in a random blood allergy test. Also, I ran into quite a few doctors (after the testing and confirmation) that were VERY skeptical of my food allergies. One went so far as to order me to take a test where I had to DRINK A GLASS OF MILK to prove that I had an allergy. I got HORRIBLY ill, informed the doctor and never saw him again. It is true that food allergy tests are spotty. Although, they rarely give false positives. If you test positive to a food allergy it's almost a sure thing that you're allergic. I completely feel your insanity. There is nothing worse than being a prisoner of your stomach. I remember for a while I'd refuse to go out, on trips, long car rides... just because I never knew when my stomach was going to act up. I wish you the best of luck. |
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Re: still undiagnosed digestive problem after 7 years-nausea, vomiting, weight loss.
From: richardj34-ga on 30 Oct 2006 12:56 PST |
thank you all for your time in responding and offering help. I now keep a journal and will attempt to get more allergy tests. thanks again and God bless! |
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