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Subject: Confirming A Company's Validity
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: killermojo-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 02 Aug 2006 06:38 PDT
Expires: 01 Sep 2006 06:38 PDT
Question ID: 751831
I am trying to confirm the validity, or basically prove if a company
really exists, as I am starting to believe that this company has
frauded me out of $2800.00 USD.

A shipping transaction is currently being conducted through a company
called "Cargo Express Inc." which is visible at  I was to send the money to a "broker" per
say, and he would hold onto the money until the package arrived and I
confirmed release of such money to the seller.  I have not heard from the company
since the day after I made payment to them.  What worries me is that I
also have not heard from the seller.

I have a friend in England who has not been able to get ahold of
anyone at the main office by phone (since the main office is located
in England) and plans to make an in person visit to that office.  I
did a whois on the domain and found out that the owner of the domain
is actually registered to a person in San Diego.  This doesn't seem to
bother me much as the company had an office in Orange, CA and I also
have a fax number to the relative area (213) area code.

Basically what I am trying to find out is if the company is legit and
how I can contact them, or should I start legal action to try and get
my money back?


Subject: Re: Confirming A Company's Validity
Answered By: answerfinder-ga on 02 Aug 2006 08:14 PDT
Dear killermojo-ga,

I regret to say that you have been the victim of a fraud. I say this
from the results of my research and from my previous experience as a
New Scotland Yard Fraud Squad officer.

The contents of the web site has been stolen from the web site of a
genuine Canadian company (albeit that company now appears to be
dissolved). The company does not make it clear as to where it is
domiciled, but if it was the UK it should be Limited and not Inc. The
UK address has been used before in an escrow fraud. One of the German
addresses has been used before in an escrow fraud. This re-use of
addresses often occurs in this type of fraud.

I telephoned the UK number and that responds with US style telephone
ring but no answer. It is clearly on a re-direct to a US number. The
code is wrong for East Ham, it should be 0208 not 0207. The domain
name owner may be a genuine name but used without his permission or

In any legal action I think the answer is for you to ignore any these
address and contact numbers, and follow the money.

Research and links:

CargoExpress Inc. web site.
?CONTACT US: TEL: 44 (207) 855 0796
FAX: 1 (734) 661 0283?

?United Kindom and Ireland
Head Office
CargoExpress Inc.
150 High Street North,
London E6 2HT,
United Kingdom?

Domain name registration from UK Nominet.

Domain name:
         Paul Zelonis
      Registrant type:
         Non-UK Individual
      Registrant's address:
         7926 peach point ave
         san diego
         92 126

The address UK address was used in this Californian escrow fraud

Other references to "150 High Street North," offering goods for sale.
All should be treated with caution.

These are escrow fraud scam alerts on You have
to go throuhg the lists to find it.

The site appears stolen from this web site: Cargomax International Inc

Cargomax International Inc appears to be a genuine company albeit now dissolved.
Business Directory
Corporate Directory

No connection with

2754 KurtShumacher Platz used in a fraud on

419 forum on scams - Google cache only now just abuses its poor victims.

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I hope this answers your
question. If it does not, or the answer is unclear, then please ask
for clarification of this research before rating the answer. I shall
respond to the clarification request as soon as I receive it.
Thank you

Request for Answer Clarification by killermojo-ga on 02 Aug 2006 08:23 PDT
Can I ask what you mean when you say "follow the money".  I have a
supposed name but how do I know that this person really exists?

Request for Answer Clarification by killermojo-ga on 02 Aug 2006 08:24 PDT
I also forgot to mention that although the money was sent to England,
the proof of payment was sent to a fax number in california.

Clarification of Answer by answerfinder-ga on 02 Aug 2006 08:41 PDT
What I meant by follow the money is, the only genuine piece of
information you have(I assume) is the money went through the banking
system. Therefore it may be possible to trace it. Unless you used
Western Union or a similar company, then I'm afraid that tracing may
not be possible.
Hope this helps.
Subject: Re: Confirming A Company's Validity
From: probonopublico-ga on 02 Aug 2006 09:03 PDT
All foreign companies that have a branch in the UK (as Cargo Express
Inc so purports) need to register with the UK Registrar of Companies.

Perhaps needless to say (in view of Answerfinder's excellent
research), the UK Registrar of Companies has no record of the company.

It's also relevant to point out that '' was only
registered on June 22 2006.

US$2,800 is a lot of dough to lose.

My commiserations.

Subject: Re: Confirming A Company's Validity
From: keystroke-ga on 02 Aug 2006 09:30 PDT
The answerer of this question get an excellent response and perfectly
summed up what I was thinking. In the UK we do not have INC status,
only PLC and LTD for non partnership or sole trader companies.

You have my sympathies too.

Subject: Re: Confirming A Company's Validity
From: kemlo-ga on 02 Aug 2006 10:18 PDT
In Addittion

SK Bagga Pharmacy. 150-152 High Street North. London. E6 2HT

All about E6 2HT
This area carries quite a high
credit risk. Find out more, free

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