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Subject: Need to know the name of an unusual vehicle.
Category: Sports and Recreation > Automotive
Asked by: brandenads-ga
List Price: $40.00
Posted: 09 Aug 2006 01:10 PDT
Expires: 08 Sep 2006 01:10 PDT
Question ID: 754157
Note: This description is long, but this is not necessarialy a highly
complex, multi-part question! Most of it is narrative description and
instructions for answering to help the researchers.

I saw a weird vehicle today. Want to know what it is!

Executive Summary: This question pertains to the identification of an
unusual vehicle that, when viewed from the back, has two larger tires
and two tiny wheels that extend from protruding arms out the back,
which appear to balance the vehicle when stopped.

It was an unusual sight. Today, when I was driving from my dorm room
to the downtown video shop to return a DVD, I saw this very unusual
vehicle in front of me. I don?t know the name of this vehicle, so I
will call it a Thingy for clarification. Unfortunately, I had just
removed my camera I usually carry in the car, and I have never taken
an art class, so right now there are no pictures. However, I am
extremely talented in writing, so I?ll have to give you a thousand
words instead of one picture.  As always, you can ask for
clarifications whenever you wish.

I will give my description as a flowing narrative, and include every
detail, no matter how small or apparently irrelevant, because any
little bit of information may be helpful.


I live in Denver, Colorado, and it is Tuesday, August 8, 2006 at about
10:45-11:30pm. I was driving down Colorado Boulevard Southbound and
got to 29th Avenue (near Barrett Elementary School) at this time.
Suddenly, I noticed the Thingy right in front of me. The Thingy was
very low to the ground, had two tires in the back, sort of like the
two tires at the back of a motorized tricycle. The chassis seemed to
go up no more than 3-4 feet off the ground (estimate may be somewhat
inaccurate, as I was driving when I saw it), and it had the usual
taillights and turn signal lights. I first saw the Thingy behind a
truck, and it looked like it was simply a trailer hitched to the back
of the truck. The Thingy was a road-legal vehicle, and had a license
plate on it.

At first the truck and the Thingy were both in the middle lane. But at
about 27th avenue, the Thingy got in the left lane, and the truck
stayed where it was. This was when I realized the Thingy was not a
trailer, but was a separate, independent vehicle. It looked like it
was indeed a motorized tricycle, perhaps a small one, unlike the big
huge touring ones you see. However, upon closer inspection, I could
not locate the handlebars sticking up in front, nor could I even see
the driver at all. This was unusual that I could se no sign of the
driver from the back: even on the biggest, bulkiest motorcycles, you
can still see part of the driver and handlebars when viewed from the
back, but on the Thingy, I could not. It looked like the vehicle only
had two large tirelike wheels. Perhaps there were additional wheels in
the front, but the chassis from the back hid it. I never at all got to
see the front or the side of the vehicle, unfortunately, because me
and the Thingy were both going the speed limit, and I don?t speed just
for the lookie-loos.

I was riding alongside in my red Pontiac Grand Prix in the middle
lane, while the Thingy was going in the left lane. During the course
of my observations, I noticed some interesting details. First, I
noticed that the Thingy appeared to be purple, or either a dark blue.
Second, I noticed that it appeared to be very unusual, exotic, or
possibly a show vehicle, but I dare not call it a show car since I am
pretty sure it is not a typical automobile. Third, it had an
interesting driving dynamic. There were two very tiny protruding arms
that appeared to have wheels on them sticking out from behind the
Thingy, located between the tires. Whenever the Thingy was moving,
these protruding arms with tiny wheels would be lifted up off the
ground. Whenever the Thingy was stopped, these arms and their tiny
wheels would drop down towards the ground. They appear to balance the
vehicle since it appeared to only have two huge tires.

I kept going down Colorado Blvd, when the Thingy turned left at Colfax
Avenue, but I needed to take a right on Colfax Avenue. This is when my
observation of the Thingy ended.




So, here is the $65,000 question (name of game show only; you are not
being paid this much!): What is the Thingy called, and what does it
look like?

I want to know what the Thingy is officially called. I want to know
its name, and to have pictures of examples of them. The name should be
accurate enough for somebody in that field of vehicles to understand
what I man. The pictures you provide should give a broad overview of
the vehicle, showing as many variations and views as possible. My
theory is once the name is found, it will be easy to produce good
pictures from the Web.

Understood, in the world of vehicles, there are huge differences
between them, and when it comes to the exotic and rare, it can be hard
to identify exactly from a verbal description. alike. Therefore, it is
possible you will not find a picture that looks exactly like what I
described, but it should represent what ?breed? of vehicle it is.

Since what I said above is a little abstract, let me clarify. For
example, let?s say that said in my description ?I saw a shiny, red,
unusual car go from 0 to 60 in 7 seconds, and that the car was low to
the ground.? Saying it was a minivan or a semi-trailer would obviously
be out of the question: it is quite manifest that these types of
vehicles cannot perform this type of speed in such as short time, and
these vehicles are pretty high off the ground. But with such a limited
amount of description, and the lack of actual photos, you may not be
able to tell if it was a Ferrari, Corvette, Porsche, or Lamborghini.
However, it turns out that a picture of any of these cars would answer
the question.  The color red is just the paint job, so a picture of a
Blue car is okay: paint jobs don?t define the car. Each of these four
cars are indeed unusual, and they all can reasonably be expected to go
from 0 to 60 in about 7 seconds. A person answering this question
might include pictures of one or more of these cars (the more the
better), and include a stat sheet from a Web Site detailing the size
and performance characteristics.  So even though the researcher cannot
tell exactly what it was, he could say it was an exotic sports car,
and give pictures to illustrate it. Use this example as a guide, and
add in your own judgment, asking me any questions you may need.

I know that identifying an unusual object is extremely difficult
without a picture, but I am willing to work with you to produce any
additional detailed description, or to make sketches to illustrate my
points. Please remember, that I am no artist, nor have a photographic
memory: therefore, any drawings I produce will be not be perfect, but
can still be helpful.

There is also the possibility that the Thingy may just be strangely
modded or customized version of a commonplace vehicle. For instance,
the Thingy may simply be a strange-looking motorcycle that was highly
customized by its owner. If this is the case, you would provide
pictures of similarly customized motorcycles, and write a detailed
narrative how various features of your motorcycle pictures support
various elements of my observation.


So, I know this was long, but please give it a go! I like the odd and
unusual, and would like to know that this is. I will not down-rate you
or shortchange you just because you cannot give me a picture that is
exactly like what is in my brain. I know that this will pretty much
not happen. To show my credibility, I?ve been an eBayer for 3 years
with a feedback history of 235 at 100% positive. Therefore, I am not
going to cheat anyone out of any hard work they deserve. If my price
seems high/low, please let me know and I may be able to adjust it if
reasonably necessary.

Thanks for your time, and I hope to have your business! Note: since
this may be a hard question, but I am passionate about it, you may
have longer than 24 hours if needed.

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 09 Aug 2006 06:53 PDT
$65,000 question, huh? Sure, I'll take a shot at that...

What you are describing sounds very much like a Prowler. This was a
special edition, two-seater railcar manufactured by Plymouth. As you
may know, each car made has its signature color. In the case of the
Prowler the signature color was indeed an eerie shade of deep purple,
though it was later made in many other colors. Because of it?s unique
chassis design and low profile seats it is difficult from the rear to
see a driver inside. In fact, from the rear the vehicle looks very
much like a three-wheeler. Take a look at these photos and let me know
if this is the vehicle you saw:

http://www.carseek.com/car_images/prowler_p.jpg

http://www.livingbeing.com/cars%20for%20sale/Images/2001%20Plymouth%20Prowler/2001-Plymouth-Prowler-0001.1.JPG

http://www.theprowlerstore.com/images/index.18.jpg

Assuming this isn?t the car you saw, whatever the car is it is almost
certainly a sports car with custom ?wheelie wheels?. These extra
wheels are mounted on a special axel in the rear to keep powerful cars
from tipping upward or dragging in the rear on takeoff. There are many
designs, some of which protrude from the back and others that extend
further to the side but here?s a set manufactured by Wheeleze:

http://www.stbarinc.com/wheeleze/images/wheeleze_cars_top.jpg

Here is another set from an unknown manufacturer that is used
primarily for drag racing:

http://www.slantsix.org/galleries/claycity/2002/cox-wheeliebar.jpg

I?m looking forward to hearing back from you.

Regards;
Tutuzdad-ga

Clarification of Question by brandenads-ga on 09 Aug 2006 09:07 PDT
Again, I sure wish I hadn't removed the digital camera from the car
the day prior! However, it appeared that the vehicle was relatively
short in front-to-back length: in fact, it seemed to be longer than it
was wide, unless the front had a very long thin nose. I observed it
turning from Colorado Boulevard to Colfax Avenue, I could not see
enough front-to-back length for it to be prowler.

It seems like I rememver seeing a bit of something move towards the
front of it, like the driver was in an open cockpit vehicle. Plus it
seems lower to the ground than a prowler.

When I get some time, I will try to build a rough sketch of one. But
with this informatoin, please try to see what you can find.

Clarification of Question by brandenads-ga on 09 Aug 2006 09:10 PDT
A question about your wheelie wheels: From the pictures on your links,
it appears that the wheelie wheels are down at all times. The wheels
on this are down when the vehicle stops, but automatically lift up
before it starts to move. Do wheelie wheels move up and down like
this?

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 09 Aug 2006 10:14 PDT
No. Most of them are fixed. I look forward to your drawing. Maybe we
can learn more from it.

Request for Question Clarification by czh-ga on 09 Aug 2006 17:21 PDT
Hello brandenads-ga,

Do you think it could have been this car? If not, is this anything
like what you saw? What?s similar/different?
 
http://snipurl.com/Racecar1

Thanks.

~ czh ~

Clarification of Question by brandenads-ga on 09 Aug 2006 19:49 PDT
Just found out my nifty allinone hp blinked out, and so I could not
send drawing right away. But I will send a drawing in soon.

Clarification of Question by brandenads-ga on 09 Aug 2006 19:51 PDT
It was not a race car. It was road legal. Most race cars are not road
legal. Plus, would need to see a picture of the back, not the front in
order to compare it to my findings.

Clarification of Question by brandenads-ga on 09 Aug 2006 20:02 PDT
I will have to post the drawing tomorrow, as I will not have access to
a scanner until then.

Request for Question Clarification by czh-ga on 10 Aug 2006 01:51 PDT
Hello again brandenads-ga,

I eagerly await your sketch of the vehicle you saw. In the meantime,
you might have a chance to see it again!

It seems that the Denver Grand Prix is this weekend. I have a hunch
that the interesting motorcycle/auto you saw is probably taking part
in the festivities in some way. You said you didn?t think it was a
race car. It might be a concept car/motorcycle that will be shown off
during the various race related events and celebrations.

Check it out.

~ czh ~

http://www.pepsicenter.com/Events/CalendarDetails.asp?ID=1614
Centrix Grand Prix of Denver
Friday, August 11, 2006, 8:00 a.m.
The CENTRIX Financial Grand Prix of Denver is three days of
international auto racing surrounded by the city's most unique summer
street festival. This annual event transforms the heart of the city
into the largest gathering of car enthusiasts, sports fans and music
lovers.

http://www.champcarworldseries.com/Event/Events.asp?ID=566
Grand Prix, Denver
Denver, USA
August 11 - 13, 2006
www.gpdenver.com
http://www.gpdenver.com/about.html#1

http://www.champcarworldseries.com/FanResources/SpottersGuide.asp
http://www.champcarworldseries.com/News/Article.asp?ID=10695
GRAND PRIX OF DENVER WEEKEND HIGHLIGHTS

Clarification of Question by brandenads-ga on 11 Aug 2006 10:23 PDT
The ***Long Awaited*** Drawings are in! I finally had a chance to go
to my school's computer lab and use the scanner.

The back of the car as I have seen it:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/brandenads/BackOfCar.jpg
(sorry about the wrinkles)

The front of the car as I am imagining it to look like:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/brandenads/FrontOfCar.jpg

Please strive to structure your answer based on the drawings.

Request for Question Clarification by czh-ga on 11 Aug 2006 11:07 PDT
Hello again brandenads-ga,

I don?t know what you saw but I have three classes of possibilities:
Mini/city car, concept car or three wheeled vehicle. Check these out.
Are we getting closer?

~ czh ~


Mini car or city car
--------------------

http://www.sutekidane.net/img/blog/geekeries/mini-car-aston-martin.jpg
http://www.sutekidane.net/img/blog/geekeries/mini-car-lamborghini.jpg
http://i.xanga.com/ParryShen/Taiwan%20Mini%20Car.jpg
http://people.bu.edu/hx30/images/london/minicar.jpg
http://www.soulofamerica.com/tours/paris_photos/paris_tt/Paris_mini-car.jpg


Concept cars ? some three wheeled
---------------------------------

http://www.nabalkone.ru/2006/apr/apr5/peugot-concept/peugot-concept-7.jpg
http://www.bornrich.org/images/eco_friendly_clever_car_concept.jpg
http://www.bolton.ac.uk/pdd/images/gallery/iurban_a_f2.jpg
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/toyota-pm-intro.jpg
http://douglas.typepad.com/content/images/nido.jpg
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/TECH/04/04/spark.clever.car/story.pod.jpg


Three wheel motorcycles and cars
--------------------------------

http://static.flickr.com/40/124170411_8e331e9927_m.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/48/124170412_021f3e011a_m.jpg
http://www3.worldisround.com/photos/17/198/42.jpg
http://www.nippi.co.uk/images/Nippi%20Deluxe%20Roof.jpg
http://www.ccpc.net/~jaho/images/freeway1sm.jpg
http://www.snapsandbytes.co.uk/showbond.jpg

Clarification of Question by brandenads-ga on 11 Aug 2006 11:32 PDT
I'm glad for everyone trying to help me. I hope the drawings were somewhat helpful.

Now that people are posting lots of links with pictures, 
I think the following might help:

Try posting lots of links to pictures depicting the BACK of
three-wheeled motorcycles/or open cockpit cars (don't forget the tiny
wheels in the back!) Links to webpages with many views of them may
help, but in order to compare drawings/pictures, I need the back. Make
sure that the handlebars do not stick way up beyond the back chassis
of the vehicle, because in my drawing handlebars are not seen from the
back! Better yet, make them show cars/motorcycles.

Also, try finding a vehicle that looks at least 90% like what I put in
my drawings. Try to find a vehicle that has an open cockpit like in my
drawing.

When I get a large quantity of pictures as described above, I can give
a better idea of what I saw.
Answer  
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Comments  
Subject: Re: Need to know the name of an unusual vehicle.
From: probonopublico-ga on 09 Aug 2006 06:15 PDT
 
This was almost certainly an Earth Landing Module manned by aliens.

Photographs would have been useful.
Subject: Re: Need to know the name of an unusual vehicle.
From: kemlo-ga on 09 Aug 2006 08:58 PDT
 
Could it be a giant Segway?
A two seater perhaps?
Subject: Re: Need to know the name of an unusual vehicle.
From: brandenads-ga on 09 Aug 2006 09:00 PDT
 
I understand photos would have been useful. Unfortunately, as I
stated, I did not have any camera equiptment availible!
Subject: Re: Need to know the name of an unusual vehicle.
From: mother911-ga on 09 Aug 2006 09:14 PDT
 
Any chance what you saw might have been a railroad work vehicle?

The rear and front of of these vehicles are fitting with retracting
train wheels to allow them to run directly on the tracks themselves.

There's an image here:
http://www.railgear.com/Assets/images/rw1013images/1013newimages/Image019.jpg

[-- Mother911-ga --]
Subject: Re: Need to know the name of an unusual vehicle.
From: corvallis-ga on 09 Aug 2006 16:08 PDT
 
Might it have been a really old vehicle, like one of the old bubble cars?
see http://www.bubblecar.co.uk/photo.htm
Subject: Re: Need to know the name of an unusual vehicle.
From: mother911-ga on 11 Aug 2006 11:18 PDT
 
OK...

I know that BMW is working on a three wheeler
http://www.automotto.org/images/clever.jpg

Martin Conquest is making a three wheeler with wheelchair access
http://www.pdpconquest.com/

And lastly, there is always the custom 3 wheeled motorcycle group
http://www.boom-trikes.co.uk/View_ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=242

A trike with a fixed wheelie bar (these are usually in place to keep
it from rolling over backwards.
Subject: Re: Need to know the name of an unusual vehicle.
From: brandenads-ga on 11 Aug 2006 11:34 PDT
 
I like the motorcycle link that mother911-ga gave. It looks like she
is somewhat warm on the trail, but I would need to see the back.
Subject: Re: Need to know the name of an unusual vehicle.
From: mother911-ga on 11 Aug 2006 12:02 PDT
 
I found a back view of one of the Boom Trikes, is this the motorcycle
that I showed that you were referring to?
http://www.boom-trikes.co.uk/ImageLibrary/350x350/356.jpg
http://www.boom-trikes.co.uk/ImageLibrary/350x350/358.jpg

[-- Mother911-ga --]
Subject: Re: Need to know the name of an unusual vehicle.
From: mother911-ga on 11 Aug 2006 12:11 PDT
 
Here's an extremely worked trike with fixed wheelie bars, I think this
is a little more powerful then what you saw. These are generally only
seen on the 1/4 mile race circuit, but I have also found pictures of
the other normal trikes (from companies like Rewaco and Boom-Trikes
standing on their rear wheels).

Fixed wheelie bars
http://www.apextrikes.com/images/blower/blrearside2.jpg

Wheelie
http://www.trikesaustralia.com/images/wheelie.jpg


[-- Mother911-ga --]
Subject: This will help answer the question
From: brandenads-ga on 11 Aug 2006 18:10 PDT
 
I'm glad for everyone trying to help me. I hope the drawings were somewhat helpful.

    Now that people are posting lots of links with pictures, 
    I think the following might help:

    Try posting lots of links to pictures depicting the BACK of
    three-wheeled motorcycles/or open cockpit cars (don't forget the tiny
    wheels in the back!) Links to webpages with many views of them may
    help, but in order to compare drawings/pictures, I need the back. Make
    sure that the handlebars do not stick way up beyond the back chassis
    of the vehicle, because in my drawing handlebars are not seen from the
    back! Better yet, make them show cars/motorcycles.

    Also, try finding a vehicle that looks at least 90% like what I put in
    my drawings. Try to find a vehicle that has an open cockpit like in my
    drawing.

    When I get a large quantity of pictures as described above, I can give
    a better idea of what I saw.

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