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Q: Fitness ( Answered 4 out of 5 stars,   1 Comment )
Subject: Fitness
Category: Health > Fitness and Nutrition
Asked by: lorazepam-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 11 Oct 2002 18:38 PDT
Expires: 10 Nov 2002 17:38 PST
Question ID: 75558
What is your opinion on what supplements are the best in order to
loose fat? I just need a honest opinion based on personal opinion and
research work? I.E. Hydroxycut, but this did not work for me so what
about a legal steroid called Winni V?
Subject: Re: Fitness
Answered By: cubist-ga on 12 Oct 2002 01:17 PDT
Rated:4 out of 5 stars

I strongly advise not to take any 'supplements' without consulting a
doctor first. Certainly not steroids. They may be legal in the US, but
not in other countries. Steroids are a class of drugs which are VERY
unhealthy, they increase the risk of several serious illnesses. Once
they are classified under the name 'Steroids', they are dangerous!
There have been a lot of supplements that promise fat-loss, but most
of them have not been tested on their effectiveness. Anyone can make
such a product and promise you that you will loose weight with it.
But, my doctor told me there are only 2 products that have been
medically tested and work:
The most important one is Xenical (or Orlistat, in Europe it is called
that, maybe in the states it has another name), which reduces fat in a
way that is not dangerous to your body. It prevents the fat from being
absorbed by your body. It provides a healthy way of reducing fat. My
girlfriend uses it and has lost 15 kilos in 6 months. The good thing
is that it works rather slow, but is very effective, because after the
cure, you don't regain the fat because you lost it in a natural way.
It's like eating everything you wanted, but without any fat.
Than there is another product, which I don't know the name of, that
works in a whole other way. It prevents the hungry feeling people get,
it is mainly used for people with unhealthy eating habits. You should
only use that if you have a problem that is related to your mind
rather than your body. It works in your brain like some drugs against
alcoholism or drug misuse, it blocks some receptors in your brain that
are related to the hunger-feeling.

Here are some links that could help you out:
obesity news:

Xenical website:

buy Xenical online: 

online pharmacy for slimmers

search terms used:

weight loss

If this is not satisfactory, or you have any other questions, feel
free to comment or ask clarification.
lorazepam-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars

Subject: Re: Fitness
From: lancebowski-ga on 14 Oct 2002 16:02 PDT
I would try a green tea/caffeine combination to address fat loss /
body weight maintenance (50 mg. caffeine + tea extract standardized at
25% catechins/3x day).

The green tea product that has successfully undergone clinical trial
is: "Exolise". It has been shown to increase thermogenesis by 40%, and
to inhibit fat absorption by 30%.

Exolise Blurb page:

Exolise store finder page:


Relevant studies:

Chantre P, Lairon D. 
Recent findings of green tea extract AR25
(Exolise) and its activity for the treatment of obesity.
Phytomedicine. 2002 Jan;9(1):3-8.
PMID: 11924761

"...after three months, body weight was decreased by 4.6& and waist
circumference by 4.48%."

Dulloo, Duret, Rohrer, Giardier, Mensi,
"Efficacy of a green tea extract rich in catechin polyphenols and
caffeine in increasing 24-h
energy expenditure and fat oxidation in humans"
Am J Clin Nutr 70(6): 1040-5

[ "Taken together, the results of these in vitro studies of rat brown
adipose tissue thermogenesis  and in vivo studies of tea catechin
bioavailability in humans suggest that the thermogenic effects of the
green tea extract result, at least in part, from interactions between
tea catechins, caffeine, and norepinephrine.
The proposed mechanism is as follows: the catechins, by inhibiting
COMT (and hence prolonging the life of norepinephrine in the synaptic
cleft), and caffeine, by inhibiting phosphodiesterases (and hence
prolonging the life of cAMP in the cell), result in an increase and
more sustained effect of norepinephrine on thermogenesis."

"Conclusions: Green tea has thermogenic properties and promotes fat
oxidation beyond that explained by its caffeine content per se. The
green tea extract may play a role in the control of body composition
via sympathetic activation of thermogenesis, fat oxidation, or both."


"Normal caffeine consumption: Influence on
thermogenesis and daily energy expenditure
in lean and postobese human volunteers"
Dulloo, Geissler, Horton, Collins, Miller


Additionally, tea polyphenols inhibit amylase (starch digesting
enzyme), thus a rise in serum glucose is limited (craving for
sweets/snack foods is reduced after a meal).

Green tea polyphenols also produce a myriad of positive health effects
when consumed regularly.

Green Tea Overview:


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