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Subject:
how to 'munge' From: line when posting from trn
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: hahna-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
12 Oct 2002 10:51 PDT
Expires: 11 Nov 2002 09:51 PST Question ID: 75763 |
hi there~ i hope some kind soul will be able to help me. i have been posting on usenet for many years now and it is only recently that the spam that results from it has gotten pretty bad. i would like to know how to 'munge' the from: line on my postings from trn. i have read the man pages for trn and there is some information that i think might pertain to this puzzle, but i do not know how to use the information: Interpretation and Interpolation Many of the strings that trn handles are subject to interpretations of several types. Under filename expansion, an initial "~/" is translated to the name of your home directory, and "~name" is translated to the login directory for the user specified. Filename expansion will also expand an initial environment variable, and also does the backslash, caret and percent expansion mentioned below. All interpreted strings go through backslash, caret and per- cent interpretation. The backslash escapes are the normal ones (such as \n, \t, \033, etc.). The caret escapes indi- cate control codes (such as ^i, ^l, etc.). If you wish to pass through a backslash or a caret it must be escaped with a backslash. The special percent escapes are similar to printf percent escapes. These cause the substitution of various run-time values into the string. The following are currently recognized: [deleted...] %D "Distribution:" line from the current article. %f "From:" line from the current article, or the "Reply-To:" line if there is one. This differs from %t in that comments (such as the full name) are not stripped out with %f. [deleted] end of man page excerpt... how do i use this information to achieve my desire? or am i looking in the wrong direction? from usenet search using key words ["how to" munge from trn]: "Yes, you can do it. Just add the From: line in the NEWSHEADER setting." what is the NEWSHEADER setting? is this an environmental value? when i type setenv, i see many values, none of which are NEWSHEADER. from the prompt would i type something like: setenv NEWSHEADER From: mymungedemail@REMOVEME.myschool.edu ? also from my usenet search: "Gravity complies, though with all the silly people who now munge their addresses in the naive belief it'll cut down on spam, one has to usually hand-edit email reply addresses anyway." [gravity is a newsreader that the poster of the quote believes in] is it really naive to think that munging will help cut down on spam? anyways, all thoughtful replies, comments and answers gratefully accepted. if i dont get an answer that works, i will dutifully continue slogging through the spam, no problem. please ask if you need any clarifications! hahna |
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Subject:
Re: how to 'munge' From: line when posting from trn
From: rbnn-ga on 12 Oct 2002 11:35 PDT |
I suspect munging would cut down on spam had it been done from the beginning; however, now that your email address is readily available in usenet archives and in spammer's databases, munging now, although it may cut down on some spam trolling bots who look at recent postings or who give credence to them specifically, may not reduce by too much the problem. Using an antispam facility may be your only hope. I use Yahoo Mail, whose "bulk mail" features catches a lot of spam, but it still lets through a few every day; this solution is not directly applicable to an existing non-yahoo email address, but, depending on your configuration, I know there is anti-spam software out there. (Some work at the client level and some at the mail-server level) |
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Re: how to 'munge' From: line when posting from trn
From: haversian-ga on 12 Oct 2002 13:39 PDT |
I agree with rbnn-ga. An email address I have given *nobody* in 2 years still receives one or two spams a day, after being heavily filtered by a university. An unfiltered account I use for the purpose of collecting spam in an account I don't use much gets perhaps a dozen a day. Spammers typically do not remove addresses from their database, even if the mail server responds that the user no longer exists - I've read numberous anecdotes to this effect. In short, even if your email address could disappear completely from usenet, at best you will reduce your future spam potential, but you won't reduce the number of spams you get now. Depending on your technical skill level, you can use something like Yahoo's automated tools, or a number of GPL'd spam-blocking utilities. I saw an article recently about a little utility to use Bayesian networks to detect spam - you feed it your spam and your real mail and it will construct a network just for you. The author's tests indicated a 99.something% effectiveness in blocking spam and a 0% false-positive (accidently throws your mail out) rate. |
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Re: how to 'munge' From: line when posting from trn
From: leep-ga on 12 Oct 2002 14:17 PDT |
trn rocks! I haven't fully investigated this, but I think that while there are ways to change the From line, your actual address may still be in the Originator line in the header. And to change that info, you would need to alter the source code for trn itself (which you probably don't have access to). |
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