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4 year old unable to sleep alone
Category: Family and Home > Parenting Asked by: cseta-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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29 Aug 2006 03:52 PDT
Expires: 28 Sep 2006 03:52 PDT Question ID: 760411 |
I just married a woman with a 4 year old son. She has been a single mother to-date, and I think some of her son's behavior reflects that. Most of it we are able to work through, but one particular behavior has been persistent, difficult to deal with, and is beginning to concern me in regards to his overall development. For the past 4 years, and his entire life, her son has slept every night in the same bed as his mother. He has always fallen asleep and woken up next to her. After getting married and moving in together, we gave him his own room with his own bed and tried to ease him out of this pattern. She would literally lay next to him in his little bed until he fell asleep. Then she began sitting next to him and stroking his head until he fell asleep. This seemed like forward progress and he seemed to be sleeping through the night as he did not enter our bedroom, although he would wake at the crack of dawn to come into our room and mess with us in bed. However, in the past two weeks, our forward progress seems to have halted and we are even going backwards. He is now waking up at random times during the night and sneaking into bed with us. If we take him back to his room, he'll oftentimes wake up and come back. When he wakes up at the crack of dawn, he comes into our room and goes to sleep in our bed next to us. In talking to him, he's not scared of anything in his room. He simply wants "mommy to lay down with him". He'll repeat this over and over. I new to fatherhood and parenting, but I think at his age he should be able to sleep by himself. I understand the circumstances he is coming from, and so I am well aware that a gradual approach is necessary, but it seems to no longer be working. How do we get him to sleep by himself after a lifetime of sleeping with his mother? |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: probonopublico-ga on 29 Aug 2006 04:57 PDT |
When my younger daughter was of a similar age, she often came into our bedroom in the middle of the night and then just stood near the head of our bed. It rarely affected me because I sleep soundly but it used to freak out my wife who took the little so-and-so back to her own bed. We didn't do anything special and eventually she just grew out of it. I guess your 4-year-old will also sort himself out in due course when he realises that he's wasting his time. All the Best Bryan |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: pafalafa-ga on 29 Aug 2006 04:57 PDT |
[NOTE that the text below was inadvertently posted as an answer, and is being/has been removed] cseta-ga, You asked: "How do we get him to sleep by himself after a lifetime of sleeping with his mother?", but it sounds like you've already accomplished this. The little tyke IS getting to sleep on his own, but is also waking up in the middle of the night and crawling into mommy's (and your) bed. Geting his to even go to sleep on his own is a big step, and is a lot of progress. From my perspective as a father of two boys, none of this sounds too unusual. Getting children (even a 4 year old) to sleep on their own is tricky. Some backsliding always seems to occur when kids are asked to take on new challenges, like the two of you are asking of your child. And nowhere is the challenge of adjustment greater than when a child is thrust into a new and uncertain situation, as your son now finds himself, with a new dad at home. As frustrating as the middle-of-the night interruptions are, it sounds as if you and your wife (congrats, by the way) have made progress with your son already, and are doing things the right way (if there can be said to be a 'right way' in parenting...if there is, it's hard to pin down). You both have a common goal of getting your son to sleep more independently, and you're both being fairly consistent, it seems, in encouraging the kid to make the adjustment. I have no doubt he will continue to make progress over the next weeks and months. Somehow, all kids wind up sleeping on their own after a while. Today, he wakes you up at the crack of dawn. Tomorrow, he'll be coming home at the crack of dawn after being out all night with his buddies. Enjoy his four-year-oldness while you can. pafalafa-ga |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: nelson-ga on 29 Aug 2006 05:13 PDT |
Get him a big stuffed toy he can cuddle with at night. Also, a lock for your bedroom door would help. |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: frde-ga on 29 Aug 2006 05:35 PDT |
Sleep in his room for a few days - either his mother will sort him out, or you need to be out of there (the female is deadlier than the male) |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: myoarin-ga on 29 Aug 2006 05:53 PDT |
I wouldn't lock the door, but like someone I know with young kids put a door knocker on the door, down at his height, and teach him to use it always, day or night, before entering your bedroom - and to wait for permission to enter. He should like having his very own door knocker. Mom can practice with him during the day, calling him to her and reminding him to knock, and if he doesn't, asking him to close the door again and knock first and to wait for her "come in". Not only will he learn to respect the privacy of bedrooms in general, if he still comes in without knocking, reminding him that he must, will distract from his immediate intention of joining you in bed, and will also allow you to ask him to or to lead him back to his bed before he can creep under the covers. (Might help if the door creaks or the latch is loud, if that can be arranged.) This seemed to work in the other family. |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: boquinha-ga on 29 Aug 2006 06:01 PDT |
Nelson! Oh my goodness, don't lock your door! That's horrible! It's very normal behavior. Sleep issues are probably one of the main topics that parents bring up with pediatricians. For that reason, famed pediatrician, Dr. William Sears (I *love* his books and his approach) has written a book specifically about sleep issues. Here is a link to his "Sleep Problems FAQ": http://www.askdrsears.com/html/7/T071100.asp Also, in many cultures, it's quite normal for families to share beds for many years. Some believe that it's the "independent, American way" to encourage especially children to sleep in their own beds and in their own rooms. Look at all of this information on "the family bed": ://www.google.com/search?q=family+bed&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 Enjoy your marriage. Enjoy your child. Enjoy the cuddles. A nice transition that we use with our children is "the special bed." I know you've said your son isn't doing it because he's scared, but this may still interest you. Yep, it's another Dr. Sears technique. http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:mfsMSF62IxAJ:www.iparenting.com/sears/answers/nightmares.htm+dr.+sears+special+bed&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5 I hope that helps! I know it can be frustrating at times and you are in a very new situation yourself. It sounds like you all have a pretty decent handle on things overall and are acting responsibly and with care. I hope you find this information helpful! Sincerely, Boquinha-ga |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: boquinha-ga on 29 Aug 2006 06:06 PDT |
A couple more resources for you: It doesn't seem to have the best reviews on Amazon, but Dr. Sears has a book all about sleep issues. He encourages co-sleeping and explains how that actually fosters independence more than forcing a child to cry it out and sleep alone. It makes sense to me. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316776203/104-3348376-7132725?n=283155 I'm amazed at the negative Amazon reviews, but here is the book that got us into Dr. Sears' ways. We really like his gentle, loving approach. It resonates with us. You've got to pick what works for you and what fits well with your family. http://www.amazon.com/-Discipline-Book-How-/dp/0316779032/ref=pd_sim_b_4/104-3348376-7132725?ie=UTF8 |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: kemlo-ga on 29 Aug 2006 10:29 PDT |
I don't suppose there is any point in suggesting you lock his door at night. Or you could tie his feet to the bed post this might work. My patents did this to me and it didn't not do me no harm Kemlo |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: keystroke-ga on 29 Aug 2006 11:28 PDT |
I'm interested in hearing an official answer when it comes. A friend's husband was away for work for about six months and during that time, their son started sleeping in the bed with her (he had never done that previously). He's 3 when this started but now is 4. I thought she was making a mistake, and even since his dad returned the child wants to be in bed with Mom at night and sleeps with both of them. She was opening up a can of worms that will be very hard to close, I'm afraid. |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: cynthia-ga on 29 Aug 2006 17:00 PDT |
Although controversial, I like Supernanny's techniques: Rules for Bedtime http://www.oprah.com/relationships/relationships_content.jhtml?contentId=con_20050121_bedtime.xml§ion=Family&subsection=Parenting Supernanny's Techniques (general) http://umibrahim.tripod.com/id13.html |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: core-ga on 30 Aug 2006 20:39 PDT |
It seems likely to me that he's having nightmares. When you said he was waking up at random times in the night, that tipped it off -- something has to be causing that. I went through a horrible period of nightmares myself around that age. Why don't you ask him if he's having lots of bad dreams lately? |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: wrichard-ga on 06 Sep 2006 18:57 PDT |
Have you tried a reward chart? This has worked well for my son. Each day that he has stayed in his bed all night long, he gets a sticker on a chart. Once he gets so many stickers, he gets something special. It doesn't have to be anything expensive, a special snuggle time with Mommy in the morning, a matchbox car, or something like that. Kids like to look forward to getting something and they like to look forward to accomplishing something. Also, be consistent. I know it's hard when you want your sleep too, but if he gets into your bed in the night, give him a chance to go back to bed on his own to earn a sticker, and if he doesn't, bring him back to his bed. Make sure he feels comfortable and safe in his bed. A nightlight might help. A favorite stuffed animal or toy nearby, or soft music might help too. |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: wrichard-ga on 07 Sep 2006 05:45 PDT |
The reward chart can be very simple. A piece of paper with 3 circles on it. He puts a sticker on a circle each time he sleeps in his bed all night. When it's complete, there's a reward of some sort. You can start with just three circles, then 5, then 10 circles. When sleeping in his own bed becomes routine, you can stop using the charts. My son was waking up in the middle of the night to snuggle with Mommy just because he could, not because of nightmares, so I suspect that's what's going on. But, do ask if he is scared just to make sure. The chart worked very well for us. We sleep a lot better now. |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: ambsy-ga on 07 Sep 2006 13:19 PDT |
I had the same situation with my daughter. I had been a single mom and she had always slept with me, then i met my husband, and she still wanted to sleep with me. she would come in at any hour during the night and just crawl in bed. what we did was a reward chart. If she didn't come in my room during the night she would put a sticker on her chart, after a week of stickers she would get a prize. ( I had a bag full of differents things she liked and she could pick what she wanted.) after 4 weeks were full of stickers she got a big prize, I think we took her to a fun place that had go-carts, mini golf, video games etc... I worked after just 4 weeks, she is now 9 and has been sleeping in her bed for the last 5 years! We are now having this issue with her younger brother who will be 4 in a month. He has never slept with us, but for some reason now gets up 3x a night and gets in our bed. Hope this helps. Good Luck! |
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Re: 4 year old unable to sleep alone
From: rockgjmom-ga on 04 Nov 2006 09:17 PST |
Esta blishing a bedtime ritual, making it fun but "firm" works. I found a lot of help about how to do this here http://www.familiesonlinemagazine.com/kid-sleep.html |
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