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Source of a quotation?
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Books and Literature Asked by: nautico-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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01 Sep 2006 13:22 PDT
Expires: 01 Oct 2006 13:22 PDT Question ID: 761469 |
I remember once reading the following: "This would have been shorter,if I'd had more time" or words to that effect. I believe it was Mark Twain, but am not sure. The remark clearly refers to the difficulty of paring down long-winded prose to its essential meat. |
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Re: Source of a quotation?
Answered By: bobbie7-ga on 01 Sep 2006 14:17 PDT Rated: |
Hello Nautico, The source of this quotation is Blaise Pascal, Lettres Provinciales, 1657. Blaise Pascal, Lettres Provinciales, 1657: "Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte." (I have made this [letter] longer because I did not have the leisure to make it shorter.) http://www.istori.com/cgi-bin/wiki?Quotations Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte. (I have made this letter so long only because I did not have the leisure to make it shorter.) ? Blaise Pascal (Lettres Provinciales) http://keithdevens.com/quotes/Pascal.shorter Search strategy: I found a very similar phrase on page 264 in the book The Life of His Royal Highness the Prince Consort, Volume 5 by Theodore Martin. ?I will now make an end of my dissertation and set you free, but I could not make it shorter. If I had had more time, I should have been shorter," said Mr. Fox after making a long speech, and many are the men who have the same tale to tell.? http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN1402176236&id=cyzE_s9-puEC&pg=RA15-PA264&lpg=RA15-PA264&dq=%22+been+shorter%22++%22more+time%22&sig=G26HUYtmrbFyqcK-nhLk-k2bIbQ This book was originally published in 1880 http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN1402176236&id=cyzE_s9-puEC&printsec=copyright&dq=%22+been+shorter%22++%22more+time%22 A footnote from the book ?Mr. Fox only said what had been often said before. Probably he took the idea from Pascal, in the sixteenth of his Provincial letters. ?Je n?ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n?ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte.? http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN1402176236&id=cyzE_s9-puEC&pg=RA15-PA265&lpg=RA15-PA264&dq=%22+been+shorter%22++%22more+time%22&sig=0fi2gVlg8U-E8WHdHrH8IYMC2IU I hope the information provided is helpful! Best regards, Bobbie7 |
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Great answer. I'm glad I wasn't dreaming about Twain having said the same thing! |
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Re: Source of a quotation?
From: denco-ga on 01 Sep 2006 16:08 PDT |
Great work Bobbie! It might be interesting to note that Blaise Pascal is -the- Pascal, as in "Pascal's law" and much more. A phenomenal person that accomplished an amazing body of work in just 39 years. Blaise Pascal- From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_Pascal |
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Re: Source of a quotation?
From: myoarin-ga on 01 Sep 2006 18:34 PDT |
Certainly can't argue with that, but I agree with Nautico's recollection that Mark Twain expressed the same idea when someone asked how much it would cost to have him speak on a subject. When the person heard his price and said that the group only wanted a short speech, Twain replied that for a short speech the price would be higher. |
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Re: Source of a quotation?
From: myoarin-ga on 02 Sep 2006 03:24 PDT |
Ha, here it is. I must have got the story wrong, or MT expressed a similar sentiment in that context. I trust the reference to NY Times is support enough: http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2006/02/mark-twain-had-same-problem-i-do.html http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/12/weekinreview/12word.html?ei=5090&en=880efbcdfb77da7e&ex=1297400400&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1157192222-yZnjJsUS+MO/ztSs1YNuGg The latter only as verification of the NYT source. It was most delightful searching through his speeches, but that was the wrong way to find this. Cheers, Myoarin |
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Re: Source of a quotation?
From: bobbie7-ga on 02 Sep 2006 07:26 PDT |
Nautico, Thank you very much for the five stars and generous tip! Bobbie7 |
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