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Subject: US naval and military aiguillettes
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: nautico-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 02 Sep 2006 02:36 PDT
Expires: 02 Sep 2006 09:12 PDT
Question ID: 761596
Did the naval and military aides to the US five-star officers of the
WWII era wear aiguillettes of five loops? (Aides to general and flag
officers wear the number of braided loops that match the number of
stars sported by their principals.)

I'm already aware of the history of the aiguillette, so don't seek a
recap of that history. What I'm after here is a reference that answers
the narrow question stated above.

Clarification of Question by nautico-ga on 02 Sep 2006 03:16 PDT
myoarin-ga,

But that site reflects only current uniform regs, not the version in
force during the era of five-star officers. The current limit is
indeed four loops, but I have to assume that's only because of the de
facto demise of the five-star rank.

Clarification of Question by nautico-ga on 02 Sep 2006 04:20 PDT
I must admit that this question is so arcane that an on-line reference
may be permanently elusive. Accordingly, I've written a letter (a real
letter!) to the Senior Historian, Naval Historical Center.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 02 Sep 2006 06:02 PDT
Interesting question.  Take a look at this site, and its reference to
a 1943 National Geo article:


http://www.militariacollecting.com/index.php?showtopic=16497&mode=threaded
The only reference I can find (I think) is in the June, 1943 insignia
issue of National Geographic. They show what might be one of these
aiguillettes. It is described as an undress aiguilette worn by an aid
to a rear Admiral (2 braids). There are others for aids to Vice
Admiral (3 braids), Admiral (4 braids) and the President (5 braids).


Does that help at all?

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by nautico-ga on 02 Sep 2006 06:20 PDT
Pafalafa,

Yes, that's an interesting site, but it doesn't address the question
of five-star aide aiguillettes. I suppose the only authoritative
reference on this subject would be a copy of Navy [or Army] Uniform
Regulations that was in force during the WWII era.

Clarification of Question by nautico-ga on 02 Sep 2006 07:40 PDT
Even though the number of loops worn by aides to flag and general
officers equates to the number of stars worn by their principals, I
suspect that one-to-one relationship broke down at the five-star
level, if only because such aides wouldn't have worn more loops than
aides to the president!
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Subject: Re: US naval and military aiguillettes
From: myoarin-ga on 02 Sep 2006 03:00 PDT
 
HI Nautico, 
This site should explain.  click on "Next" either place for the fig. 9-7:
http://www.tpub.com/content/administration/12966/css/12966_184.htm

Seems like four loops is the limit.  I expect the Army procedure is
the same and that it can also be found on this site.

Cheers, Myoarin

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