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Quantum Entanglement
Category: Science > Physics Asked by: mongolia-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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04 Sep 2006 09:28 PDT
Expires: 04 Oct 2006 09:28 PDT Question ID: 762100 |
I have been reading some stuff lately on Quantum entanglment. It would appear that the concept of Quantum Entanglement has been fully verified by numerous experiments in the last few years. One thing though which I cannot seem to get a straight answer on is as follows: Using the concept of Quantum Entanglement is it possible to send information faster than the speed of light? Regards Mongolia |
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Re: Quantum Entanglement
From: qed100-ga on 05 Sep 2006 09:46 PDT |
Hi, This is a very interesting question. If by "information faster than light" you mean, in other words, "conduct a meaningful conversation about the weather with someone on Proxima Centauri, without a time lag of several years", then the answer is no. Entanglement is the circumstance that at least two quantal objects, particles, are both features of a single wave function. Thus, what happens to one also happens to the other, regardless of their remoteness. This isn't, however, the same as conducting causality across spatial distances at greater than c. When what happens to one also happens to the other, it's because the wave function is an object which cannot be reduced to its parts without destroying the identity of the wave itself. By making an unambiguous measurement of an entangled particle here, the wave function collapses, which has implications regarding the more distant entangled partner. In other words, the distant particle must also select a well defined state, since its wave function has collapsed. Nevertheless, we here on Earth aren't there to physically measure the distant particle, and vis versa for anyone at Proxima Centauri. |
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Re: Quantum Entanglement
From: willh-ga on 05 Sep 2006 13:58 PDT |
Why do I think the same person both asked and answered this question? |
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Re: Quantum Entanglement
From: qed100-ga on 05 Sep 2006 14:19 PDT |
How do you figure that? |
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Re: Quantum Entanglement
From: hillcd-ga on 06 Sep 2006 04:56 PDT |
I am not being paid for this, but I would like to answer anyway. The answer is: no. Entanglement is only a statement about the correlations between two particles. You cannot transmit any information via this entanglement. However, if you make measurement of the two particles and look at the correlations between the measurement records, then the correlations are different to what you expect classically. In particular, for some entangled states, they can violate a Bell inequality. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement The most common example is that of |psi> = 1/sqrt(2) |00>+|11> which is a maximally entangled state. Imagine that Alice has the first particle and Bob has the second. Alice's measurements are completely random. 50% of the time she will measure a "0", 50% of the time she will measure a "1". There is nothing that Bob can do to affect this. No measurement (or rotation of his system) that Bob makes will affect what Eve measures. Since Bob can't do anything to affect what Alice measures, he can't pass her any information. It is only if Alice and Bob communicate (which is limited by the speed of light) that they can make use of the correlations provided by entanglement. So the answer is no. The best explanation I've seen of this is in Michael Nielsen and Ike Chuang's book, "Quantum Computation and Quantum Information". Of course, entanglement is extremely useful for communications. If you and I share that state, |psi> we can communicate faster than if we don't. In fact, we can communicate double as fast. That's known as "dense coding". For every one bit of information that you send me, I can find out two bits of information. But it certainly doesn't let me communicate faster than the speed of light: We still need that classical communication to send the first bit, and that is limited by the speed of light. http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/11/3/9/1/world-11-3-9-2 Entanglement is also useful for teleportation. In teleportation, Alice and Bob share an entangled pair. Alice then makes a measurement on her system. Then she _sends_ the result of this measurement to Bob. That classical information she sends is limited by the speed of light. Bob then has to perform different actions on his half of the entangled pair, based on the information that Alice has sent him. As you see, it is the correlations that we are making use of. Once again, it is only when Alice and Bob communicate (which is limited by the speed of light) that they get any advantage. The short answer is: no. Entanglement does not allow communication faster than the speed of light. |
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Re: Quantum Entanglement
From: mongolia-ga on 06 Sep 2006 06:33 PDT |
Dear willh-ga It looks as though as a result of my Question , I have almost become "entangled" with qed100-ga :-). I have to disappoint you however to let you know we are two different entities. Sometimes I do envy qed100-ga's in depth knowledge of Physics and other things. I very much admire his (or maybe her!) contributions to this forum. As our Wave Functions have separate origins there is no danger of us ever been found in the same Quantum State. Regards Mongolia |
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Re: Quantum Entanglement
From: qed100-ga on 06 Sep 2006 07:08 PDT |
Hi Mongolia, In my case I'm a "he". It is hard to figure out sometimes what the posters' genders are. I went for months thinking Pink was a guy. :) |
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Re: Quantum Entanglement
From: pafalafa-ga on 06 Sep 2006 08:01 PDT |
That's why I chose the unambiguous name pafalafa-ga...to avoid any gender confusion! |
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Re: Quantum Entanglement
From: qed100-ga on 06 Sep 2006 08:15 PDT |
pafalafa, did Saturday Night Live used to have a regular character based upon you? Someone named "Pat"? :) |
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Re: Quantum Entanglement
From: scubajim-ga on 06 Sep 2006 12:51 PDT |
I'm glad the poster allowed for the possibility that the answer was from a she and didn't assume the answer was given by a man. There are also many intelligent women out there. (I am a he.) |
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Re: Quantum Entanglement
From: purpleprogrammer-ga on 20 Sep 2006 20:50 PDT |
There is evidence that communication /can/ occur at a rate greater than the speed of light. Scientifically, this has only been so far as, maybe, the planck length (a very, very small amount of spacetime)... Due to uncertainty, some data can arrive faster than light, even though the average speed is no greater than the speed of light. Apparently this has been verified in experiment, but it really only gives you a faster transmission by a totally useless amount. Also, some photons are polarized in the time direction; they "wobble" forward and backward in time, rather than horizontally or vertically... so they toggle between going a little faster than light, then a little slower than light. It all averages out (like so many other things in quantum science) to being *at* the speed of light, but on a very small scale, it might be just a little ahead, or a little behind. So, to recap, it's only possible +/- the heisenberg uncertainty principle. As a friend once put it, Quantum Science states this quite clearly: Blah blah faster blah than blah blah light: False. |
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