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Q: Old Apple system fonts ( Answered 4 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
Subject: Old Apple system fonts
Category: Computers > Operating Systems
Asked by: imcsa-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 04 Sep 2006 13:14 PDT
Expires: 04 Oct 2006 13:14 PDT
Question ID: 762176

I am trying to open an old document made on Mac OS 9

At this time, New York and Charcoal fonts were included in Mac OS

Now we have OS X and these fonts are not there anymore, and I can't
find a way to download them somewhere.

Request for Question Clarification by rainbow-ga on 04 Sep 2006 15:57 PDT
I haven't yet been able to find where these fonts are available for
download. However, let me know if this application helps:

"dfontifier is an application that can convert Mac OS X-style Datafork
TrueType fonts (.dfonts) into ordinary Mac OS 9-style TrueType fonts
and vice versa."

Best regards,

Clarification of Question by imcsa-ga on 04 Sep 2006 22:47 PDT
This can defintely be useful if I can get hold of the Mac OS 9 fonts
as I am now on OS X

But still, I need the fonts itself first....

Request for Question Clarification by rainbow-ga on 05 Sep 2006 01:27 PDT
After additional research, I still haven't been able to locate
anywhere to download these fonts. However, according to the following
site, both of these fonts are included with Mac OS X 10.4. I'm not
familiar with Mac, but is it possible to upgrade to this OS?

Best of luck,
Subject: Re: Old Apple system fonts
Answered By: jackburton-ga on 05 Sep 2006 04:37 PDT
Rated:4 out of 5 stars

As I am a Mac OS 9 user, I have the fonts in my collection. I have
uploaded them here for you:
[ Just click on the "Download File" button, and the download should
begin automatically ]
If you have any problem with the link, or you cannot unstuff the file,
please request clarification.
Best regards

Request for Answer Clarification by imcsa-ga on 05 Sep 2006 14:12 PDT

This is crazy, we use OS X 10.4 and the fonts are not there ( I tested on 3 Macs)

I will look into the OS install cd tomorrow


Best regards


Clarification of Answer by jackburton-ga on 06 Sep 2006 06:02 PDT
If the fonts are there, they could be disabled and therefore would not
appear in the Font panel or in the list of available fonts in an
See here how to make disabled fonts appear in these places:

Request for Answer Clarification by imcsa-ga on 10 Sep 2006 09:08 PDT

It wasn't so simple, I looked already there.

But you put me on the way of finding the solution, so we can consider this closed.

If you are curious, here is the answer:

These fonts were part of Mac OS until version 9.2.2

They disappeared in OS X

They are installed in OS X only if Classic is installed (Classic is a
version of OS 9 to run OS 9 apps in OS X)

So I finally found a OS 9 install CD and got the fonts, the used the
tool you provided to convert them to OS X font format.

Thanks again


Clarification of Answer by jackburton-ga on 10 Sep 2006 09:21 PDT
That's good to know. Thanks.
imcsa-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars

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