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Grammar question - which is correct?
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: reneeg-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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05 Sep 2006 10:48 PDT
Expires: 05 Oct 2006 10:48 PDT Question ID: 762422 |
Which of these 2 questions is correct, and where can I find a citation for this in a recognized style guide? "What is the first and last name of your partner?" "What are the first and last names of your partner?" We are using this question in an online form and have been told that the first question is not grammatically correct, but that is how most people speak when posing the question. Thanks! |
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Re: Grammar question - which is correct?
From: probonopublico-ga on 05 Sep 2006 10:57 PDT |
"What are the first and last names of your partner?" Is correct! |
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Re: Grammar question - which is correct?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 05 Sep 2006 11:35 PDT |
In my view, "What is the first and last name of your partner?" would only be acceptable if your partner's first name were the same as his or her last name. If your partner were Ford Madox Ford or Sirhan Sirhan, for instance. |
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Re: Grammar question - which is correct?
From: denco-ga on 05 Sep 2006 13:02 PDT |
Make it "Partner's first and last name:" instead and no one can complain except for those that would prefer to be asked for their surname and their given name, or family name and given name. In my view "What is the first and last name of your partner?" is fine. It is understood, even by a person that might disagree with the way it is phrased, to mean: "What is the first [name] and [what is the] last name of your partner?" I think it is acceptable to use forms of "informal English" in this way, that is, an online form, in order to make it a bit more accessible. http://www.bartleby.com/64/13.html "Informal English has its own rules of grammar and is just as logical as formal English." I read "What are the first and last names of your partner?" to somehow suggest it needs something such as "Jerry-Bob" "Smith-Jones" in response. To be colloquial, I got me just one last name. Not that there is anything wrong with having more than one last name. |
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Re: Grammar question - which is correct?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 05 Sep 2006 13:13 PDT |
Denco, I agree that either version of the sentence would be OK in informal English. The customer's request for a citation from "a recognized style guide" led me to believe that this might be a formal or business usage. |
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Re: Grammar question - which is correct?
From: denco-ga on 05 Sep 2006 16:47 PDT |
Agreed Pink. I was thinking they could also be looking for a jusification for the informal phrase, hence the "but that is how most people speak when posing the question." You make a great point though. |
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Re: Grammar question - which is correct?
From: cynthia-ga on 05 Sep 2006 18:24 PDT |
I prefer: -- What is your partner's first and last name? |
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Re: Grammar question - which is correct?
From: probonopublico-ga on 06 Sep 2006 00:45 PDT |
Dear reneeg-ga Please take absolutely NO NOTICE of those misguided souls who have disagreed with me! I speak with complete authority because I am ENGLISH through and through (well, except for an Irish grandpa). The others are mere Americans ... And everyone knows what they have done to the English language ... Bryan The only authority who has commented. |
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Re: Grammar question - which is correct?
From: kemlo-ga on 06 Sep 2006 01:02 PDT |
"What is the first and last names of your partner?" Is correct! Dear reneeg-ga Please take absolutely NO NOTICE of those misguided souls who have disagreed with me! I speak with complete authority because I am ENGLISH through and through. The others are mere Americans ... And everyone knows what they have done to the English language ... Kemlo The only other authority who has commented. |
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Re: Grammar question - which is correct?
From: myoarin-ga on 06 Sep 2006 03:42 PDT |
Well, that proves that the English - Probono and Kemlo - are not in agreement. If this is for an online form, you can avoid the problem by asking: "Please enter your partner's first and last name." |
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Re: Grammar question - which is correct?
From: frankcorrao-ga on 07 Sep 2006 14:59 PDT |
If your partner is Sirhan Sirhan, you've got bigger problems than to worry about. That said, by comparison of sentances with similar syntax, my opinionis that "are" and "partners" carry the day. What are the first and second rules of Fight Club? What is the first and second rule of Fight Club? The "is" and singular only works if they are exactly the same, as pink pointed out. In this case example, they are the same, which it makes it more obvious I think. |
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Re: Grammar question - which is correct?
From: frankcorrao-ga on 07 Sep 2006 15:00 PDT |
Don't you hate having a lot of typos when you answering a question on grammar? Me two. |
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