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Who wrote the famous sentance about quick foxes and lazy dogs?
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: brandenads-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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09 Sep 2006 01:20 PDT
Expires: 09 Oct 2006 01:20 PDT Question ID: 763597 |
I would like to know a credible, reputable reference that shows whom is the original inventor of the following sentance: The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. (other variations exist) Refrences to the book "Ella Minnow Pea" do not count as a credible reference, since this book is fiction. Ask yourself "If this was a college research paper worth 1/2 of my semester grade, would this resource be considered legitimate enough to be included in the bibliography" when answering this question. I am not interested in pop trivia sites and people's personal homepages. | |
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Re: Who wrote the famous sentance about quick foxes and lazy dogs?
From: rainbow-ga on 09 Sep 2006 04:37 PDT |
I'm not certain how authoratative this is, so I'm posting it as a comment: Most websites state: The sentence "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog." uses every letter in the alphabet. (Developed by Western Union to Test telex/twx communications) I also found this: "Both Western Union and the Phone Company use teletypewriters extensively. You know: a letter struck on a typewriter in a New York office is electrically reproduced on a machine in some other city. The Phone Company tests with "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog's back" and Western Union sends "William Jax quickly taught five dozen Republicans". --- From the New Yorker 1 February 1936 http://www.ralphmag.org/jovial-squawZK.html I hope this helps. Rainbow~ |
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Re: Who wrote the famous sentance about quick foxes and lazy dogs?
From: probonopublico-ga on 09 Sep 2006 06:46 PDT |
I've never heard Western Union quoted as the source but it sounds very credible to me. Well done, Rainbow! |
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Re: Who wrote the famous sentance about quick foxes and lazy dogs?
From: fp-ga on 09 Sep 2006 08:20 PDT |
The phrase in question is quoted in this article on the "Dvorak keyboard": http://www.voicenet.com/~grassie/Fldr.Articles/Simplified.html The article, however, does not make it clear if the phrase was used by Dvorak himself (i.e. promoting the new keyboard or in his book). More on Dvorak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Dvorak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typewriting_Behavior http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard |
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Re: Who wrote the famous sentance about quick foxes and lazy dogs?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 09 Sep 2006 11:58 PDT |
When I was an undergraduate, in the late 1960s, I wrote a term paper on the subject of pangrams. I did quite a bit of research at that time, and I never came across a verifiable attribution for the "quick brown fox" pangram. I'd be very surprised if one can be found now. Locating the name of the individual who originated so widely-used a phrase is, in my opinion, highly unlikely. |
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Re: Who wrote the famous sentance about quick foxes and lazy dogs?
From: brandenads-ga on 09 Sep 2006 13:04 PDT |
The term paper mentioned by pinkfreud-ga is very interesting. I am also interested in pangrams. Is it possible that I can see a copy of the term paper you wrote, if you still have it? |
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Re: Who wrote the famous sentance about quick foxes and lazy dogs?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 09 Sep 2006 13:09 PDT |
Alas, I no longer have any of my college term papers. They were stored in a family storage trunk that was overtaken by black mold, and everything was literally turned to dust. I lost a lot of memories to those blasted fungi. |
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Re: Who wrote the famous sentance about quick foxes and lazy dogs?
From: supriya53-ga on 20 Sep 2006 06:42 PDT |
An example of the phrase being used to display fonts."The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" is a pangram that has been used to test typewriters and computer keyboards because it is coherent, short, and contains all the letters of the English alphabet. It was often used for testing the teletype services (a procedure known as "foxing") when these machines were still used.[citation needed] In the age of computers, it is often used as a sample text in font selection contexts. The phrase is frequently misquoted as "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog", which does not contain all the letters of the alphabet since it lacks the letter "s". For this reason, the word "slow" or "sleeping" is sometimes inserted into the phrase, or the word "dog" is made plural. An example of the phrase being used to display fonts."The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" is a pangram that has been used to test typewriters and computer keyboards because it is coherent, short, and contains all the letters of the English alphabet. It was often used for testing the teletype services (a procedure known as "foxing") when these machines were still used.[citation needed] In the age of computers, it is often used as a sample text in font selection contexts. The phrase is frequently misquoted as "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog", which does not contain all the letters of the alphabet since it lacks the letter "s". For this reason, the word "slow" or "sleeping" is sometimes inserted into the phrase, or the word "dog" is made plural. |
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Re: Who wrote the famous sentance about quick foxes and lazy dogs?
From: fp-ga on 20 Sep 2006 07:12 PDT |
Supriya53-ga, why not include the link to your quotation (i.e. to both your quotations)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3Drand() or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_quick_brown_fox_jumps_over_the_lazy_dog |
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Re: Who wrote the famous sentance about quick foxes and lazy dogs?
From: cynthia-ga on 20 Sep 2006 13:01 PDT |
Just for fun! There's a fictional book about the origin of the phrase: "A quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" --sounds like a good read... Ella Minnow Pea: A Novel in Letters http://www.geocities.com/athens/4824/rev-d2.htm (the review) ORDER THE BOOK: http://www.amazon.com/Ella-Minnow-Pea-Novel-Letters/dp/0385722435 ..."Mark Dunn's ELLA MINNOW PEA is subtitled "a progressively lipogrammatic epistolary fable." It is set on the island nation of Nollop, whose founder wrote the famous panagram "A quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog," which is inscribed on a plinth in the center of the capital city. One day, the letter 'Z' falls off and the council decides this is a sign that means that henceforth no one should use that letter in either speech nor writing. A few weeks, later 'Q' also falls, and so on. The book is a combination of lipogrammatic writing (i.e., writing that avoids one or more letters), a cautionary tale against losing one rights a bit at a time, and also a criticism of theocracies which claim to know the will of God. However, the last two are a bit obvious, and the first starts out clever, but becomes a bit of a cheat. (At some point, the council decides that people can write words that had the forbidden letters by spelling them differently--e.g., when they can no longer use 'U', they can write "yewniverse".) There's also a secret underground trying to construct a sentence shorter than "A quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" that uses all the letters of the alphabet, because if they can, that will prove that Nollop was not divine, and the falling of the tiles shouldn't be taken as divine signs. I will leave the details of the attempt for the reader to discover. (This is in a broad sense fantasy, by the way, and I discovered it through a review in the NEW YORK REVIEW OF SCIENCE FICTION.) ..." |
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