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Q: Probability of selecting balls from an urn. ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   1 Comment )
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Subject: Probability of selecting balls from an urn.
Category: Science > Math
Asked by: wobbleone-ga
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Posted: 10 Sep 2006 17:25 PDT
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Question ID: 763991
An urn contains one red ball and four with balls. You and a friend
take turns selecting a ball from the urn, one at a time. The first
person to select the red ball wins. If you draw first, what is the
probability that you will win if sampling is done with replacement and
the probability without replacement?
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Subject: Re: Probability of selecting balls from an urn.
Answered By: elmarto-ga on 11 Sep 2006 08:54 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello!
Let's start with the case in which the sampling is done without
replacement. Since there is a total of 5 balls, you can draw balls a
maximum of three times: in the first turn, in the third turn (if your
friend doesn't win in the 2nd one) and in the fifth turn (if your
friend doesn't win in the 2nd or 4th one). Therefore, we can write the
probability of winning as:

P(Win) = P(Win in 1st turn) + P(Win in 3rd turn) + P(Win in 5th turn)

In the first turn, there's one red ball out of a total of 5 balls.
Therefore, the probability of winning in this turn is 1/5 = 0.2:

P(Win in 1st turn) = 0.2

Now, in order to win in the 3rd turn, it must happen that:
- You draw a white ball in the 1st turn
- Your friend draws a white ball in the 2nd turn
- You draw the red ball in the third turn

The probability that you draw a white ball in the 1st turn is clearly
4/5 = 0.8. After this turn, there are 4 balls left, one of which is
red. Therefore, the probability that your friend draws a white ball in
the 2nd turn is 3/4 = 0.75. In the third turn, there are 3 balls left,
one of which is red. Therefore, the probability of drawing the red
ball is 1/3 = 0.333... We thus conclude that:

P(Win in 3rd turn) = (4/5)*(3/4)*(1/3) = 0.2

Finally, we have to calculate the probability that you win in the 5th
turn. Using the same reasoning as above, it must happen that neither
you or your friend draw the red ball in the first four turns.
Therefore, the probability of this is:

P(Win in 5th turn) = (4/5)*(3/4)*(2/3)*(1/2) = 0.2

We conclude that:

P(Win) = 0.2 + 0.2 + 0.2 = 0.6

If you draw first, you have a 0.6 probability of winning.

Let's now see the case with replacement. In this case, theoretically,
there can be any number of turns before someone draws the red ball.
Since there is replacement, the probability of drawing the red ball is
always 1/5 (as there are always 5 balls), so the probability of
drawing a white one is 4/5. The probability of winning can be written
as:

P(Win) = P(Win in 1st turn) + P(Win in 3rd turn) + P(Win in 5th turn) +
                + P(Win in 7th turn) + ...

Now, the probability of winning in the 1st turn is clearly 1/5.

In order to win in the 3rd turn, both you and your friend must draw
white balls in the 1st and 2nd turn, and you must draw the red one in
the 3rd turn. Therefore, the probability of this event is
(4/5)*(4/5)*(1/5) = [(4/5)^2]*(1/5).

In order to win in the 5th turn, both you and your friend must draw
white balls in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th turn, and you must draw the
red one in the fifth turn. Therefore, the probability of this event
is:
(4/5)*(4/5)*(4/5)*(4/5)*(1/5) = [[(4/5)^2]^2]*(1/5)

The pattern should now be clear. The probability of winning in the 7th
turn would be [[(4/5)^2]^3]*(1/5); in the 9th turn it would be
[[(4/5)^2]^4]*(1/5), and so on. Therefore,

P(Win) = 1/5 + [(4/5)^2]*(1/5) + [[(4/5)^2]^2]*(1/5) + [[(4/5)^2]^3]*(1/5) +
                  + ...
P(Win) = (1/5)*(1 + [(4/5)^2] + [[(4/5)^2]^2] + [[(4/5)^2]^3] + ...)

The infinite sum in the above expression has the form 1 + r + r^2 +
r^3 + ... This sum (as long as |r|<1) is known to converge to 1/(1-r).
Therefore, we get:

P(Win) = (1/5)/(1 - (4/5)^2) = 5/9 = 0.555...

Therefore, the probability of winning if you draw first and the
sampling is with replacement is 5/9, a bit smaller than in the other
case.


I hope this helps! If you have any doubt regarding my answer, please
don't hesitate to request clarification before rating it. Otherwise, I
await your rating and final comments.

Best wishes!
elmarto
wobbleone-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $5.00
Quick and through! Thank you!

Comments  
Subject: Re: Probability of selecting balls from an urn.
From: elmarto-ga on 12 Sep 2006 06:13 PDT
 
Thank you very much for your rating and tip!

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