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Energy available from Solar Cells
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: cscoxk-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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11 Sep 2006 15:20 PDT
Expires: 11 Oct 2006 15:20 PDT Question ID: 764270 |
How much energy in kilowatt hours is theoretically available from sunlight in Canberra Australia per square meter per year. The answer I am really after is how many solar cells at what efficiency do I need to install on my house roof so that I can generate enough energy to meet my energy needs. I can find the kilowatt hours I consume from my electricity bill. Another way of putting it are solar cells on rooftops capable of meeting domestic energy needs and so theoretically are they a way of reducing our carbon emissions. |
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Re: Energy available from Solar Cells
From: canadianhelper-ga on 13 Sep 2006 00:15 PDT |
It would be easier if you could just state: I need this many xxxx kwh of energy through solar panels. Please provide solutions including size of grid and cost for home use. So how much energy do you use? Here is a little info on Australian solar powered homes http://www.greenhouse.gov.au/renewable/home/index.html http://www.greenhouse.gov.au/renewable/power/raps-cs1.html http://www.greenhouse.gov.au/renewable/power/raps-cs2.html Why not just buy GreenPower and have someone else run the grid for you... Households can call the customer service number on their electricity bill and ask to join up to an accredited Green Power product. Remember each energy supplier will have their own name for the accredited Green Power product they sell, such as ?GreenLiving? or ?GreenEarth?, and have different options for the levels of Green Power you can purchase. http://www.greenpower.gov.au/pages/ |
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Re: Energy available from Solar Cells
From: canadianhelper-ga on 13 Sep 2006 00:25 PDT |
BTW... According to NOVA 400 joules of energy per metre/second hit Austrailia 400 joules is equiv to 400 watts if perfect conversion existed...for solar cells you can count on perhaps 25 percent or as low as 13!. Therefore you will get between 50 and 100 watts per square metre of solar cells. Here is a good article I found: http://socialwork.arts.unsw.edu.au/tsw/D48CanSolarSources.html http://www.science.org.au/nova/005/005act02.htm |
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Re: Energy available from Solar Cells
From: neilzero-ga on 13 Sep 2006 16:01 PDT |
Lets assume the 400 watts, average, per square meter is correct for December from 8 am to 6 pm, and you buy 20% solar cells that respond well to low angles of incidence. Sorry to make this complicated, but the 25% cells only work well if you keep turning them to face the sun as they usually have built in magnifing lens. So an average of 80 watts for 10 hours = 800 watt-hours per day. That will keep a large bank (million cubic centimeters = one cubic meter) of new batteries fully charged if you use little or none of the power. You need perhaps ten square meters = an array 2 meters by 5 meters to keep slightly aged and abused batteries charged in June and provide some power you can use each month except June and part of July. This assumes you have ten square meters of steep roof 45 degrees or steeper which faces North and that this portion is rarely or never shaded by nearby trees or other structures. It also assumes cloudy days are rare. Less roof tilt is ok in December, but even 10 square meters may not keep your batteries fully charged in late June each year, with less roof tilt. The steep roof tilt is less important in Northern Austraila than in Tasmainia. After you find the price of 10 square meters of solar panels, you likely will not want to think more square meters. I suggest you start out small, until you understand the details, and think of your system mostly as back up power, when your electric utility is out for a few days. You can use 10,000 cubic centimeters of battery, but your charge controller will often shut down your system to avoid over charging your puny battery, which will then be damaged by excessive discharge if you use even one kilowatt hour from the battery during a utility black out. Neil |
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Re: Energy available from Solar Cells
From: neilzero-ga on 13 Sep 2006 16:46 PDT |
You will notice, I did not mention volts nor amp-hours as this complicates the discussion. For a small system 12 volts is logical as 12 volt inverters are avaiable cheap, but not legal to connect to you utility grid. Cover your best eye if you attempt to use these cheap inverters on the power grid, as they may fail every 100th time they go on line, perhaps much oftener. 120 volts seems logical as some devices designed for 60 hertz ac wok well on dc. For reasons unknown to me 120 v dc is not popular. Big systems use many solar panels in series to produce several hundred volts. This allows smaller wire sizes, but I have seen copper wire up to one centimeter in diameter recomended, making the wire a major budget item. Neil |
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Re: Energy available from Solar Cells
From: neilzero-ga on 14 Sep 2006 06:41 PDT |
I know you are hopeing the 80 watts per square meter is pesimistic, but my friend who has operated a one square meter system for 3 years charging 12 volt batteries, all but convinced me that 60 watts per square meter is about all you can expect even in the sunniest locations. Clearly you can produce enough green energy from solar panels for about double the cost your utility charges, with uncommon skill or luck and a very favorable roof. The cost is at least tripple if you figure your time at minimum wage. ie you will replace your batteries perhaps 15 times in the 30 years you can optimisticly expect your solar panels to be significantly useful, if you fail to guard your batteries from both over charge and excessive discharge. I have not used a charge controller, but I suspect they undercharge batteries that are near the end of their useful life. If you move, you likely will not be able to convince the buyer of your house, that your expensive system adds value to the house. The power grid systems typically do not have batteries, so you cannot even get emergency power during sunlight hours when the utility is down. These on the grid systems are more costly, but the government incentitives may off set the extra cost over a bare bones emergency power system, which may not be elegible for the incentitives. If you do your own work, electrical burns and shock are a serious hazzard on the a 40 kilowatt system and a minor hazzard on some 4 kilowatt systems. Neil |
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