Anybody know, or working on profitable products comming from
electrical  production via wind turbines. ie oxygen/hydrogen from
electrolysis(not sure it is profitable)--Hydrogen peroxide production
-- NO3 production for agricultural use//Other ideas??

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 16 Sep 2006 14:32 PDT

redbaron007-ga,

I don't quite understand your question.

There's nothing special about electricity produced by wind turbines,
so that any money-making scheme that needs electricity to succeed
could, presumably, make use of wind-generated power.

Most commercial wind turbine operations, as far as I know, are selling
their power back into the grid.

Can you clarify what sort of information you're after, here.   Thanks.


pafalafa-ga

The problem with wind generated electricity as a sole source is that
the power fluctuates.  This makes it unattractive  - if not impossible
-  to rely entirely and exclusively on wind generated electricity for
profitable production of anything.  Profitable meaning in competition
with production based on stable power from the grid, which assures
optimum use of the production facility.

You can get a production tax credit.  It is on value.  The PTC,
provides a 1.9 cent-per-kilowatt-hour (kWh) tax credit for electricity
generated with wind turbines over the first ten years of a project?s
operations, and is a critical factor in financing new wind farms.

You need to research some specific issues-
1. Value of end products-Hydrogen/Oxygen versus value of electricity onto the grid
2. Proper siting of turbines-estimated energy production at site in MWh per year
3. Intallation Costs-permitting, land aqusition, interconnection
4. Electrolysis equipment costs-installation, Operation, Maintenence

The US Goverment is doing research into hypergrids that will
incorporate superconducting electric grids with hydrogen cooling and
transport. I think if you could site a large scale wind farm at the
factory site that uses the hydrogen/Oxygen then this may be a viable
option.

Interesting question.  I work in the energy area more on the finance
side and never came across other side benefits. I sure you can make
some other side product but I doubt it is economical.  Wind generation
itself has to be propped up today to by some type of subsidy to be
build.  It is too expensive.

These people would know definitly.  http://www.awea.org/

Depending on where are located, other possible items:
1.  Green Tags or Tradable Renewable Certificates (TRCs or RECs) are
created when a renewable energy facility generates electricity. Each
unique certificate represents all of the environmental attributes or
benefits of a specific quantity of renewable generation, namely the
benefits that everyone receives when conventional fuels, such as coal,
nuclear, oil, or gas, are displaced. You usually buy certificates from
someone other than your electricity provider. What you pay for when
you buy renewable energy certificates is the benefit of displacing
other non-renewable sources from the regional or national electric
grid.
2.  Lots of dead birds