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Stop father-in-law giving to Nigerian Email Scam
Category: Family and Home > Seniors Asked by: helpstopscamvictim-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
17 Sep 2006 23:38 PDT
Expires: 17 Oct 2006 23:38 PDT Question ID: 766235 |
How can I stop my father-in-law from giving all his money to the Nigerian Email Scammers? Background: My father-in-law has a 30 year history of schemes and scams to get-rich-quick. Along the way he?s lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, not only for himself but also for friends and family that have ?invested? in these ?opportunities?. At some point along the way he came across the Nigerian Email Scam and found the answer to all his financial troubles. Many letters, emails, phone calls, airplane tickets, and tens of thousands of dollars later, he still hasn?t received a penny. Four years ago his wife finally sought financial separation, after finding a letter from the bank notifying her of foreclosure on their home. He responded by filing for divorce, moving hundreds of miles away, buying a new house, and separating himself from the family. And now, with credit cards maxed out and his home taken by the bank, he?s still chasing the scam, faithfully contributing his handsome pension and social security every month. After all, you can?t stop now... when you?re so close to the payout. Even grocery money goes to the scam. To his credit, he finally has the key to the safe deposit box that contains the millions. If it wasn?t for that faulty radiator in Texas, they would have made it to meet him in person and lead him to the bank. Not to mention that bribe needed to get back into the country after deportation. Along the way there?s been family interventions, letters, visits, and phone calls to help kick his addiction to these scams. We?ve opened our spam box to show other scam emails and sent copies of media exposés on the Nigerian Email Scam. Yes, even the fantastic article in the New Yorker, ?The Perfect Mark? (http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060515fa_fact). But the result is the always, ?it?s not the same.? Sometimes he?ll confess that it?s hard to believe, but within a week he?ll be convinced once again of how close he is to the riches... If only he send a couple thousand and a plane ticket. Fortunately he couldn?t convince the bank to cash any of the fraudulent checks the Nigerians sent him, but that didn?t stop him from opening an account for the Nigerians to use. He wouldn?t knowingly break the law, but it?s clear that it?s only a matter of time before he finds a bank to cash a fraudulent check. I?d like to blame the Nigerian scammers, but if it wasn?t their email scam, it?d be another scam or pyramid scheme. Unfortunately his drive for financial success supersedes all else... his family, friends, even hunger. Question: Are there state, legal, or medical options to stop him? His pension would be more than adequate to put him in a home of some sort, but how can we get him there? What other options exist for people being scammed but refusing to admit it? | |
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Re: Stop father-in-law giving to Nigerian Email Scam
From: politicalguru-ga on 18 Sep 2006 00:36 PDT |
Perhaps calling the local branch of the Secret Service (they're on the "Blue Pages" and you can also find the branch here: http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml ) and ask them what to do - they have a task force to deal with this crime. By the way, as you said it yourself, it sounds like an addiction - just like an addiction to gambling (that this is *the time* that he'd get lucky) and maybe an addiction centre would be also appropriate, especially if there's a specialist in gamling, which probably works on the same mechanism. |
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Re: Stop father-in-law giving to Nigerian Email Scam
From: answerfinder-ga on 18 Sep 2006 01:03 PDT |
From my experience as a Fraud Squad in the UK, there are, unfortunately, a few people like your father. They will just not accept that they are being defrauded, it almost borders on a compulsion. Your father needs to understand that he is not just sending money to a fraudster, he is funding serious crime: drugs, murder, prostitution and blackmail, and not only in Nigeria, but across the world. You say he would not knowingly break the law. Well, it has got to the stage that he has been told so many times that he could be prosecuted for the offence of money laundering - certainly in this country. I?m not sure about the law in the States, but I suspect the same applies. Perhaps he needs to a law enforcement officer to point this out to him and show him the misery caused by this scam. |
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Re: Stop father-in-law giving to Nigerian Email Scam
From: probonopublico-ga on 18 Sep 2006 01:41 PDT |
I also know two people who have thrown all their money and then some into get-rich-quick schemes ... It's always the next one that will sort everything out. Sadly, one committed suicide after squandering a fortune and finishing up in debt. It is an obsession and there is no reasoning with them. Maybe there is some form of 'court protection' that can be invoked? Worth checking out! Bryan |
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Re: Stop father-in-law giving to Nigerian Email Scam
From: keystroke-ga on 18 Sep 2006 07:18 PDT |
It is great that you want to help, but as you said, if it wasn't emailing Nigeria, it would be some other scheme. Your father-in-law obviously enjoys these scams. Maybe they even keep him young! Who knows? I knew an older person who would give hundreds, even thousands, of dollars a month to the "Canadian lottery" and was so convinced that he would win it "any day now." When asked how long he had been playing this lottery, he would say, "Oh, 25 years." When asked when he'd ever won, he would say he never had but just knew that that was coming any day now. Obviously, he had spent a fortune on this lottery, so much so that he could have funded his own lottery if he'd so chosen! It just doesn't make sense but the appeal of a "get rick quick" scheme is so appealing that people choose to believe in them anyway. You might be able to have his power of attorney taken away and his Social Security checks sent to your wife. I don't know if that would make him too happy, however. It would be a drastic move. |
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Re: Stop father-in-law giving to Nigerian Email Scam
From: aussietpp-ga on 18 Sep 2006 11:30 PDT |
Perhaps you should become the scammer and get him to send his money to you. You could then re-direct the money back towards his upkeep. :) |
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Re: Stop father-in-law giving to Nigerian Email Scam
From: politicalguru-ga on 18 Sep 2006 14:04 PDT |
If I may - I was appalled to see some of the reactions to your problem. Although one can also get addicted to lottery (which is, of course, another type of compulsive/addictive behaviour, see what Answerfinder-ga has written), you cannot compare these scams to lottery. At least in principle, state lottery goes to all kind of charity projects; in the case of the "Nigerian" scams, it is operated by organised crime (not always in West Africa, nowadays all over the world, including some with terrorist connections). These connections are a good enough reason not to follow the extremely stupid advice of sending him to Nigeria to meet the scammers. There have been already cases of murder. This is certainly a serious problem, which merits intervention or treatment. This might help: "Can a person be addicted to get-rich-quick schemes, and how can I stop my father from ruining himself and my mother?" <http://www.peele.net/faq/rich.html> Get help also from: The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) http://dasis3.samhsa.gov/ |
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Re: Stop father-in-law giving to Nigerian Email Scam
From: frde-ga on 19 Sep 2006 04:00 PDT |
I did not see the post about meeting the scammers - possibly you (Polly) got it removed - meeting them is a very silly idea - little chance of returning. Given that he has tried to cash fraudulent cheques, I am rather surprized that he has not had some run ins with law enforcement - at which point his credit rating should disappear. I could give you some links on the subject - but it sounds as if your f-i-l is not exactly sane - and you seem to be pretty clued up. Maybe ask here: http://www.419eater.com/forum/ They spend their time tormenting scammers, and some of them are very adept, if nothing else they could confuse the parasites. I think the technical term for what your f-i-l is suffering from is 'post cognitive dissonance' |
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Re: Stop father-in-law giving to Nigerian Email Scam
From: politicalguru-ga on 19 Sep 2006 04:46 PDT |
Frde - this advice was not here, but on the Yahoo! link. |
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Re: Stop father-in-law giving to Nigerian Email Scam
From: frde-ga on 21 Sep 2006 01:54 PDT |
Ok, try this. Visit : www.419eater.com Have a look at the Forum, read it carefully. If you can get some info from your f-i-l then some people there would be delighted to use it to confuse the scammers. However they will need some copies of the Emails that he has been receiving. It is not an ideal solution, but it is quite easy to get a 419 scammer to reveal their true colours, and there is an outside chance that your f-i-l will see the light. |
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