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Subject: Are thes companies real/legitimate?
Category: Business and Money > Small Businesses
Asked by: pageboy-ga
List Price: $65.00
Posted: 23 Sep 2006 04:53 PDT
Expires: 23 Oct 2006 04:53 PDT
Question ID: 767787
Could you please check if the following are legitimate companies
thanks. Company Inforamtion taken from Alibaba.  None of the companies
have websites.

Saint Antoine Services Limited
Mr. Antoine George
Job Title:Director/CEO/General Manager
Address:Almeda House,90-100 Sydney, Street, Chelsea, London, Sw3 6nj,
Chelsea, United Kingdom
Zip/Postal Code:SW3 6NJ
Telephone:44-020-4765553
Fax:44-027-4656832
Mobile Phone:447024022742
they say they have been in bussines for 4 years.

Warehouse Holdings Limited (uk)
Country/Territory: United Kingdom 
Address: Mindland House, Leeds, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom LS10 2RJ
Telephone:44-702-4018667
Fax:	44-702-4018667
Mobile Phone:	447024018667
Certificates: 	Registered No.04036579
Year Established: 2000

Harrisson Europe Ltd
Mr. harrisson paul
Job Title:	Director/CEO/General Manager
Address:	18 Abbotsbury Close, London, London, United Kingdom
Zip/Postal Code:	W14 8EG
Telephone:	44-702-4015957
Fax:	44-702-4015957
Certificates:  	04411186
Year Established: 	2002

Arkadin Ltd
Mr. Robin Anderson
Job Title:	Sales
Address:	5th Floor 26-28hammersmith Grove, London, United Kingdom
Telephone:	44-703-1872704
Certificates:  	04349238
Year Established: 	2002
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Subject: Re: Are thes companies real/legitimate?
Answered By: politicalguru-ga on 23 Sep 2006 06:51 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dea Pageboy, 

Saint Antoine
-------------
The UK Companies House includes only one company that is called Saint
Antoine Services. It is a health care services copmany, registered
since 2005 (not since 2001/2); it also has a different address:
SAINT ANTOINE SERVICES LIMITED
10, THE BOULEVARD
HOLLINGWORTH
HYDE, CHEHSIRE
SK14 8PL

Warehouse Holdings
------------------
This company exists, according to the Companies House registry, since
2000, in the same address, and was first called "SHUNTSHINE LIMITED"
(and changed its name in 2001).

You can order a report about the company (for extra payment) here: 
Companies House
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/5798f5466b2471230cdf94036ef14eb1/compdetails 

Further reports could be ordered here: 
http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/04036579.html 

The problem? There is another company in this address: 
WH2L
<http://www.wh2l.co.uk/> 

And "Warehouse Holdings" is nowehere to be found on Leeds
phone-books/yellow pages; business directories and the such.

Harrison Europe
---------------

Again that is such a company registered in the UK since 2002 . Further
reports are for sale here:

http://ukdata.com/company-credit-reports/HARRISSON-EUROPE-LTD.html 

The problem? On a Kensington directory it appears as a "Management &
Business Consultants in Kensington" and with a different address.

Another problem? The Harrisson guy was stupid enough to post his email
address all over the Internet, and I also found it at the "phone-lads"
buster forum :
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:lk7if1oZKfcJ:forum.419eater.com/forum/search.php%3Fsearch_author%3Dremmy223+hallmarktelecom%40ameinfo.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4

(You can find information on the kind of scam employed here): 
 PHONE LADS!
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72654


Arkadin
-------
Again, the company is registered in the UK and with that address, since 2002. 

It also has a website
Arkadin UK 
<http://www.arkadin.co.uk/index.cfm> 

The problem? This Arkadin is not "one of the leading electronics
distributors around, we have for sale brand new electronics, in their
brand new boxes, complete accessories and warranties on all our
electronics.
We also selling at wholesale prices, so the prices are very
affordable." - it is a "global provider of integrated audio and data
conferencing services with operating centres in over 16 countries".

Another scam. 

Three of the companies listed in the question are definitely scams.
The fourth - Warehouse Holdings - is listed as a company in the UK,
but there is no evidence that it actually exists beyond the name,
which is suspicious (and please note that two of the other three
companies were also registered as a company, but turned out to be an
abuse of those companies' identities - those "real" companies are not
in the same business). In any case, I would like to remind you of the
general precautions when dealing through the Internet: Never send
money through Western Union or similar companies (These are to be used
when one knows the person to whom the money is addressed, for example
a family member); always try to think whether the deal is too good to
be true; contact Chambers of Commerce in cases of doubt.

The Leeds Chamber of Commerce: 
<http://www.leedschamber.co.uk/> 

I hope this answers your question. Please contact me if you need any
clarification on this answer before you rate it. My search terms:
"Find me anywhere" Range, 702 uk area code, 702 uk phone area code,
702 uk phone, 702-4018667, "LS10 2RJ" "midland house" , "LS10 2RJ"
"midland house" warehouse, "LS10 2RJ" "midland house", "LS10 2RJ",
LS10 2RJ, arkadin "26-28 hammersmith Grove", 26-28 hammersmith Grove,,
Arkadin phone, KEYVALE SERVICES, KEYVALE SERVICES, 26-28hammersmith
Grove,, Arkadin, uk company registry site:gov, uk company registry,
"Warehouse Holdings" leeds, "Warehouse Holdings", Warehouse Holdings,
hallmarktelecom, "W14 8EG", W14 8EG,  Abbotsbury Close W14 8EG, 18
Abbotsbury Close, london W14 8EG, "Harrisson Europe",
hallmarktelecom@ameinfo.com, hallmarktelecommunication, "HARRISsON
EUROPE", "HARRISON EUROPE", HARRISON EUROPE, 18 Abbotsbury Close,
London, Harrisson Europe, "WAREHOUSE HOLDINGS", SHUNTSHINE, "Midland
House" leeds "Warehouse Holdings", "Midland House" leeds , "Midland
House, Leeds, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom LS10 2RJ", Midland House,
Leeds, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom LS10 2RJ, WAREHOUSE HOLDINGS,
Mindland House, Leeds, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom LS10 2RJ, 10
boulevard antoine hollingworth hyde, 10 boulevard antoine
hollingworth, the boulevard antoine hollingworth, the boulevard
"HEALTH CARE SERVICES" hollingworth, HEALTH CARE SERVICES
hollingworth, SAINT -ANTOINE HEALTH CARE SERVICES LIMITED, Saint
Antoine patron, Saint Antoine, "Antoine George", Antoine George,
HOLLINGWORTH "10, THE BOULEVARD", HOLLINGWORTH, "10, THE BOULEVARD",
10, THE BOULEVARD, "476 5553", 476 5553, 44-020-476 5553,
44-027-4656832, 44-020-4765553, Almeda House,90-100, "Saint Antoine
Services", Saint Antoine Services
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Comments  
Subject: Re: Are thes companies real/legitimate?
From: answerfinder-ga on 23 Sep 2006 07:11 PDT
 
Spot on politicalguru-ga . The contact details supplied on Alibaba for
all the companies are false. The companies are registered with
Companies House, but the contacts details are false.

I notice that on Alibabi the contact information for Warehouse
Holdings Limited (uk) uses the phone number 44-702-4018667
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10759771.html
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10759771/contactinfo.html

This same number is used on Alibaba for Trading Business Solutions (UK) Ltd
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10801145.html
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10801145/contactinfo.html


The Arkadin number is used twice as well.
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10808588.html
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10808588/contactinfo.html

http://www.alibaba.com/company/10805464.html
http://www.alibaba.com/company/10805464/contactinfo.html


answer finder-ga
Subject: Re: Are thes companies real/legitimate?
From: probonopublico-ga on 23 Sep 2006 08:11 PDT
 
As a subscriber to Companies House Direct, I can also add to the
excellent information and advice provided by Politicalguru and
Answerfinder:

Antoine George is not listed as a director of Saint Antoine Services
Ltd; and the landline number was 'not recognised'.

Although Warehouse Holdings appears OK, it is unusual to refer to the
Registration Number as 'Certificates'; and a distinctly
Nigerian-sounding voice answered the landline.

There is no Paul Harrison (or Harrison Paul) among the officers of
Harrison Europe Ltd; the Registration Number is 04834871, not the one
shown in the 'Certificates'; and a distinctly Oriental-sounding voice
answered the landline.

There is no company registered as Arkadin Ltd although there is an
Arkadin (UK) Ltd with the Registration Number shown in the
'Certificates'; there is no Robin Anderson listed among the officers;
and a distinctly foreign-sounding voice answered the landline.

So, although the may companies 'exist' (more or less as shown) their
credentials are decidedly dubious.

Bryan
Subject: Re: Are thes companies real/legitimate?
From: politicalguru-ga on 23 Sep 2006 10:59 PDT
 
Pageboy, 

Thank you for the rating and the tip!

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