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Subject:
Breaking a rental lease due to illegal activity by landlord
Category: Family and Home > Home Asked by: eamon_cat-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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27 Sep 2006 16:57 PDT
Expires: 03 Oct 2006 16:54 PDT Question ID: 769063 |
My wife and I are one year into a 3 year rental lease in S California, we discovered that our land lord who is the mortgage holder does not own the house. Her sister could not get a mortgage so the land lord pretended to buy the house to get a mortgage even though she is not the owner. We are concerned about this,we have already had to threaten legal action to get repairs carried out to the AC unit. Is this enough for us to break our lease without legal action being taken by the landlord/owners against us? | |
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Re: Breaking a rental lease due to illegal activity by landlord
From: myoarin-ga on 27 Sep 2006 18:13 PDT |
This a free comment, not an "answer" to your question. Do I understand correctly: The one sister is still on the county real estate records as the owner; the other sister has taken the mortgage, and presumably there is a lien on the property for this mortgage? This is information that can be confirmed by an inspection of the county's real estate records, perhaps online. If there is any doubt about this, with the name of the county, we can tell you if and how it is possible to access the records online. The second sister would not have had to pretend to buy the property to get a mortgage with a lien on the property, if the owner agreed to the lien. This is not illegal. The sister who took the mortgage signed the lease contract with you without identifying herself as agent for the owner, correct? Unfortunately, it is not unusual to have to threaten legal action to get repairs made, but you were successful, setting a precedence if further repairs should become necessary. Is this your concern and reason for wanting to break the lease? It can happen elsewhere. Please not that anything posted here is not legal advice, as you can read in the disclaimer below. Also note that the email notification system is defunct, so you will have to check yourself to see if comments or an answer are posted. |
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Re: Breaking a rental lease due to illegal activity by landlord
From: daniel2d-ga on 27 Sep 2006 23:47 PDT |
As long as you have a place to live that is provided as agreed upon and the "illegal" activity does not jepordize you what would be your basis for breaking the lease? If the issue is repairs find out what your town ordinances cover as they pertain to repairs. If you want out of lease negotiate that with the landlord. |
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Re: Breaking a rental lease due to illegal activity by landlord
From: eamon_cat-ga on 28 Sep 2006 15:52 PDT |
As far as I am aware the sister who "owns" the house is not on paper as having anything to do with the property, all mortgage and property tax related mail comes to our address and is in the landlords name not the owner. We thought this was strange and when it came to getting repairs done to the AC our landlord, ( the sister with the mortgage) could do anything without the owners permission, (the other sister)this took six weeks and a lot of grief. We have also heard from a mutual friend that the ownership of the house is not entirely above board and that the LLord and Owner panicked when we threaten legal action incase this was discovered. We just feel uncomfortable with this whole inadequate arrangement and want out. |
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Re: Breaking a rental lease due to illegal activity by landlord
From: eamon_cat-ga on 28 Sep 2006 16:23 PDT |
Type-o I ment to say that the L.Lord could NOT do any repairs without the owners permission. We also believe that they are not declaring the property as a rental and that the mortgage company thinks that the mortgage holder lives at our address. |
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Re: Breaking a rental lease due to illegal activity by landlord
From: myoarin-ga on 28 Sep 2006 17:27 PDT |
Greetings Eamon_cat-ga Thanks for the update. If the property tax papers are in the name of the landlord (landlady), that is pretty clear evidence that she is the owner on record. The county real estate records are the true information. This seems to rule out the other sister's being the owner, but perhaps they both are on record as joint owners or as tenants in common with the papers addressed to just the one sister. "Tenants in common" does not mean that they have to be residents on the property. As I mentioned before, it may be possible to clarify this online - by you with our help, if you tell us the county; or, if you give the address, by someone here, if the county records are online. A bank or mortgage company would normally be happy to know that the property was being rented, since that would be a source of income to help meet the mortgage payments. It is unusual that the mortgage and tax mail is being sent to your address, but that does not have to be suspicious; the owner/landlady/mortgagee may just be sloppy about getting the address changed after purchasing the place. For the tax papers, in California this is very easy, the person just needs to enter the correct address on the envelope included for paying the tax. I understand your wanting to avoid any kind of problems as legal aliens, but from the way I understand the situation, you as lessees would not be involved, since you only have to meet the terms of the lease contract. Of course, if you really want to break the lease, none of this answers your question, and you will need local legal advice from someone with access to more information than we have. Note the disclaimer below. Personally - as a layman with a little experience in Cal. real estate - I see no need for you to want to move or grounds to justify breaking the lease, but I may be wrong. I sincerely hope that someone can give you more solid information, maybe on the basis of details from the county records, if you want to provide more information. Let us know, and do consider talking to a lawyer. Regards, Myoarin |
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