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Subject: Starting my Shawarma Restaurant in Phoenix, Arizona
Category: Business and Money > Small Businesses
Asked by: nablus73-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 02 Oct 2006 17:14 PDT
Expires: 01 Nov 2006 16:14 PST
Question ID: 770291
I would like to know where i can get the special equipments for
Shawarma meat (the vertical grill and other Shawarma equipments) and
from where can i get this round huge meat that installed on the
vertical grill? I am a student in Arizona and want to know exactly how
to start this food business from scratch.
Thank you.

Adnan
AZ

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 02 Oct 2006 18:46 PDT
Adnan...

I'm in AZ too, so I'd love to see you succeed with this. I first
tasted shawarma in a pita sandwich in Athen, Greece, in the 60s,
where it's known as gyros, and immediately thought that it would
easily rival hamburgers in popularity if it were brought to the
states. Unfortunately, most of the gyros meat is distributed as
pre-sliced, and it is considerably drier and less flavorful than
when it is sliced off the meat bundle as it cooks.

The machines are not too difficult to locate. A company called
Autodoner makes some very good ones, which are available from
the USA Restaurant Equipment Company:
http://www.amer-rest-equip.com/autodoner/usare_autodoner.html

More options on this page from ABestKitchen.com:
http://www.abestkitchen.com/store/vertical-broilers.html

They may also be able to point you to a meat supplier, which 
seems much harder to locate, if it's possible at all, since
the traditional way of "installing" the meat on the rack is
by adding strips of it onto the skewer until you have a full
slab, as can be seen in the layering evident in the photo
from this Wikipedia page on Shawarma:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawarma

Different combinations of meats are used, marinated in olive
oil and shawarma spices, as seen on this Amazon.com store:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000GGWDGW/sz-category453-20/ref=nosim

Even if pre-formed meat slabs were available (my research 
suggests they're not), I can't imagine that they'd taste
as good as freshly marinated and skewered on a daily basis.

A blog named the Qatar Diary details how the shops in the
Middle East prepare the meat for the spindle, in an article
titled: ' Shawarma: Maker's envy, eater's delight!':

"Bhaktawar says it took him about two months to master the
 art of making shawarma. 'Initially, I used to faint almost
 everyday because of the heat coming directly at me.'
 A shawarma shop purchases 15 to 20kg of chicken, beef and
 lamb everyday. 'It never goes waste. All of it is over by
 10.30 at night,' says the owner of another eating joint nearby.
 At most shops, the shawarma maker starts slicing the meat one
 by one into thin pieces at about 1.30 in the afternoon and
 builds up logs of them on the cooker.
 'The procedure takes about an hour,' Bhaktawar says.
 You'll be surprised that at every shawarma shop your sandwich
 'will taste different' because every shop has its own style of
 making it.
 'It's the difference in the spices,' Bhaktawar explains. 'An
 Arab joint will make it differently, and an Indian joint will
 make it differently, with a little more spice, whereas many
 others make it bland.'"

[...]

"'We buy five kilograms each of regular beef and chicken. Every
 night once the restaurant is closed we slice the meat up into
 pieces and keep it in the freezer. The next afternoon, we
 assemble it on the stick," says Mahmood Jamal, a professional
 shawarma maker from Egypt. He says he was selected out of about
 50 professional shawarma makers from Egypt who were being tested
 for the job. Rojina makes the shawarma especially for Egyptians,
 who 'like more of liver, kidney and brain.'"

More on the page:
http://qatardiary.blogspot.com/2005/06/shawarma-makers-envy-eaters-delight.html


Since you state that you "want to know exactly how to start this
food business from scratch", which is somewhat vague in contrast
with your earlier questions, and far beyond what I can provide
in a $10 answer, I won't yet post this as a formal answer, since
I can't be certain if what I've provided will satisfy your
interests.

If it has, or if there are some relatively simple clarifications
I can provide, let me know, and I'll post a formal answer.

sublime1-ga

Request for Question Clarification by denco-ga on 02 Oct 2006 19:24 PDT
Howdy Adnan,

I believe your main question about a source for vertical broilers and the cones
of meat can be answered by the following.

Grecian Delight gyro cones.
http://www.greciandelight.com/store/product.asp?productid=56&cat1=2

Grecian Delight broiler.
http://www.greciandelight.com/equipment.htm

Kronos gyro cones.
http://www.kronosproducts.com/p-meats1.html

Kronos broilers.
http://www.kronosproducts.com/broilers.html

If the above answers your question, please tell me and I will post it as such.

Thanks!  denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher
Answer  
Subject: Re: Starting my Shawarma Restaurant in Phoenix, Arizona
Answered By: sublime1-ga on 13 Oct 2006 01:25 PDT
 
Adnan...

Encouraged by taxmama-ga's high praise, and painfully aware that
you have not received notification of activity on this question,
I'm going to go ahead and post my comments as an official answer
before the question expires altogether.

----------------------------------------------------------------

I'm in AZ too, so I'd love to see you succeed with this. I first
tasted shawarma in a pita sandwich in Athen, Greece, in the 60s,
where it's known as gyros, and immediately thought that it would
easily rival hamburgers in popularity if it were brought to the
states. Unfortunately, most of the gyros meat is distributed as
pre-sliced, and it is considerably drier and less flavorful than
when it is sliced off the meat bundle as it cooks.

The machines are not too difficult to locate. A company called
Autodoner makes some very good ones, which are available from
the USA Restaurant Equipment Company:
http://www.amer-rest-equip.com/autodoner/usare_autodoner.html

More options on this page from ABestKitchen.com:
http://www.abestkitchen.com/store/vertical-broilers.html

They may also be able to point you to a meat supplier, which 
seems much harder to locate, if it's possible at all, since
the traditional way of "installing" the meat on the rack is
by adding strips of it onto the skewer until you have a full
slab, as can be seen in the layering evident in the photo
from this Wikipedia page on Shawarma:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawarma

Different combinations of meats are used, marinated in olive
oil and shawarma spices, as seen on this Amazon.com store:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000GGWDGW/sz-category453-20/ref=nosim

Even if pre-formed meat slabs were available (my research 
suggests they're not), I can't imagine that they'd taste
as good as freshly marinated and skewered on a daily basis.

At this juncture, I must express my appreciation to my
colleague, denco-ga, for having provided links to the
two sites which do sell gyro cones, while at the same
time, I'll stand by my recommendation of creating them
from scratch.

A blog named the Qatar Diary details how the shops in the
Middle East prepare the meat for the spindle, in an article
titled: 'Shawarma: Maker's envy, eater's delight!':

"Bhaktawar says it took him about two months to master the
 art of making shawarma. 'Initially, I used to faint almost
 everyday because of the heat coming directly at me.'
 A shawarma shop purchases 15 to 20kg of chicken, beef and
 lamb everyday. 'It never goes waste. All of it is over by
 10.30 at night,' says the owner of another eating joint nearby.
 At most shops, the shawarma maker starts slicing the meat one
 by one into thin pieces at about 1.30 in the afternoon and
 builds up logs of them on the cooker.
 'The procedure takes about an hour,' Bhaktawar says.
 You'll be surprised that at every shawarma shop your sandwich
 'will taste different' because every shop has its own style of
 making it.
 'It's the difference in the spices,' Bhaktawar explains. 'An
 Arab joint will make it differently, and an Indian joint will
 make it differently, with a little more spice, whereas many
 others make it bland.'"

[...]

"'We buy five kilograms each of regular beef and chicken. Every
 night once the restaurant is closed we slice the meat up into
 pieces and keep it in the freezer. The next afternoon, we
 assemble it on the stick," says Mahmood Jamal, a professional
 shawarma maker from Egypt. He says he was selected out of about
 50 professional shawarma makers from Egypt who were being tested
 for the job. Rojina makes the shawarma especially for Egyptians,
 who 'like more of liver, kidney and brain.'"

More on the page:
http://qatardiary.blogspot.com/2005/06/shawarma-makers-envy-eaters-delight.html

sublime1-ga


Searches done: Unfortunately the amount of time which has passed
precludes my ability to retrieve the pertinent searches from my
browser history, but if you have any questions, let me know.
Comments  
Subject: Re: Starting my Shawarma Restaurant in Phoenix, Arizona
From: taxmama-ga on 12 Oct 2006 21:36 PDT
 
Dear sublime1-ga 

Your answer is sublime!

What an interesting bit of research.
Well done!

Best wishes

Eva

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