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Carbon-Neutral Wedding
Category: Science Asked by: noelsemple1-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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06 Oct 2006 13:36 PDT
Expires: 05 Nov 2006 12:36 PST Question ID: 771378 |
I'm getting married next summer, and would like to avoid causing environmental degradation in doing so. How should I go about calculating and offsetting the impact? Presumably the guests' airplane flights are a big item, but what else needs to be considered? Do I need to consider environmental impacts other than greenhouse gas emissions? What organizations (preferably in the Toronto area) can do the calculations and sell me the appropriate credits? |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: knowitall22-ga on 06 Oct 2006 14:06 PDT |
Do not allow your guests to fart. (Methane...extemely dangerous.) K22 |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: pinkfreud-ga on 06 Oct 2006 14:17 PDT |
Marriage licenses are made from cut-down trees. No license. Diamonds are made from carbon, and are politically incorrect. No ring. Wedding dresses are made from synthetic fibers (chemicals!) or from natural fibers (enslaved silworms! exploited cotton-pickers!) Seriously, if you are encouraging guests to fly cross-country, are you truly all that concerned about "environmental degradation"? |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: keystroke-ga on 06 Oct 2006 14:30 PDT |
I agree with Pinkfreud-- the main degradation will be caused by the flights your guests will be taking across the country. Unless you're having a truly unique event, I can't think of anything else that would significantly contribute to emissions. Cars do not have nearly the impact of airplanes. It is good that you're concerned about this, however. I would suggest the best way for you to offset this is to make a large donation to an environmental fund dealing with carbon emissions and work to help the environment in other small ways that add up, such as using flourescent light bulbs. Here is a fascinating article in the Economist on the subject of aircraft emissions: http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=E1_SDPRSNG |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: steph53-ga on 06 Oct 2006 15:42 PDT |
Is this for real????? No flying??? Oh sheesh, what next? Steph53 |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: redhoss-ga on 06 Oct 2006 16:05 PDT |
No smoking either. |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: barneca-ga on 06 Oct 2006 16:42 PDT |
to be fair to poor ganged-up-on noelsemple1-ga, carbon-neutral does not mean no flying, no driving, no paper licenses, etc. it means that you offset the carbon introduced into that air due to these activities by planting trees, paying someone else not to fly, etc. some people contribute to organizations like keystroke mentions. or, 99% of the time, you do what noelsemple1-ga inplies, and deal with a non-profit or for-profit organization that does the calculations and offsetting for you. you can disagree whether this is necessary or good or worthwhile, but it isn't as ridiculous as some seem to be implying. at least it's voluntary, and free-market based, instead of manadatory and regulatory. i suspect that airline travel has such a large carbon footprint that everything else is just noise in the system, and can reasonably be ignored. i've never felt compelled to deal with this stuff myself, so i don't know who does it, but take a look at the ads google placed above and below your question; it looks like terrapass.com does something like this. congratulations on your engagement. -cab |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: myoarin-ga on 06 Oct 2006 17:00 PDT |
And no big dinner with cooked food, especially a warm buffet with cans of sterno under the hot dishes, nor an amplified band for dancing that wastes electricity - but that is all right, if you can assure yourself that it is produced by water power. Theoretically, you shouldn't serve destilled drinks - more energy - but I expect the stuff will be produced anyway. "Enslaved silkworms": it is much worse, they kill the poor little critters in boiling water. The rustle of a silk wedding dress is the ghostly death cries of thousands of silkworms. Invite the guests to join the celebration by email and to attend by watching the live or canned event on the net. Be generous and suggest they only send half the price of the expenses saved by not flying as a wedding gift. |
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From: knowitall22-ga on 06 Oct 2006 17:53 PDT |
Even better: cancel the engagement/wedding. A ton of money will be saved, there will be no environmental damage, and the odds are in your favor. Most marriages fail, or should have. K22 |
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From: barneca-ga on 06 Oct 2006 18:20 PDT |
jesus, what is with you people tonight? it's like lord of the flies. one or two people make snide comments, and suddenly it's pile-on-the-newbie night? if noelsemple1-ga was: -spamming -asking "akshfkjhfkjsdhj keasasasasdfd" -asking you to do his homework for him -being a jerk then i could understand it, but this is a simple, politely-asked, rational question. noelsemple1-ga, i don't know about everyone here, but i've lurked here long enough to know that pinkfreud, myoarin, and steph53 are normally much kinder, nicer and wiser than i am. i hope that when whatever this is wears off, you'll get a thoughtful, well-researched answer. until then, keystroke had a good idea. and by searching for "toronto carbon neutral" in google, i found the following sites that might be useful. http://www.treecanada.ca/programs/climatechange/co2-neutral-events.htm http://www.terrapass.com/flight/ google it yourself and you might find others. -cab |
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From: markvmd-ga on 06 Oct 2006 20:44 PDT |
Ah, dedicated greenie Noelsemple1, just plan and enjoy your wedding and make a commitment to not pollute in the future. Buy efficient cars, homes, and appliances; eat right, exercise, and take up sailing; work toward banning land mines, depleted uranium ammunition, and the designated hitter rule; and encourage others to have few (or zero) children, though you should be blessed with plenty of them. Most important of all, solum potestis prohibere ignes silvarum. |
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From: nelson-ga on 06 Oct 2006 20:49 PDT |
What are thye airlines making a special flight just for your guests? Sheesh, you are just going way to far. Stop breathing. You're creating carbon dioxide. |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: hedgie-ga on 06 Oct 2006 21:23 PDT |
I disagree with Pinkfreud: "Diamonds are made from carbon, and are politically incorrect." Diamond preserve carbon in the form which does not allow carbon to get into the atmosphere. No sensible person would burn diamonds. So, I recommend lot of diamonds. Wedding gifts list should be setup at a local jeweller who offers on-line sales. With help of a simple webcam you can pioneer internet weddings : Guests stay home and watch the wedding on a screen and send gratulations over internet - a like during a web conference: http://www.raindance.com/rndc/wcp/wcpOverview.jsp If that would be adopted, you would really make a contribution. Hedgie |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: borisshah-ga on 07 Oct 2006 00:42 PDT |
do it in your mind? that way nothing gets used up. No paper, ring, dress, relatives and friends flying over. Just remember the last movie that you watched which had a wedding in it and insert you, your loved one and your guests and enjoy. Hopefully, the cost and degredation will only be a lot of breaths. You may now kiss the bride. |
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From: frde-ga on 07 Oct 2006 00:51 PDT |
While the conventional answer is to offset Carbon emissions by planting trees - there is a wrinkle Water vapour is a potent greenhouse gas - and trees evaporate water Personally I consider this stuff is just scare mongering, our CO2 contribution is trivial compared with natural emissions, one good volcano offsets years of human activity. We might have a future problem with rising sea levels, if so it makes sense to watch for it, but faffing around making Chicken Little noises is utterly pointless. |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: myoarin-ga on 07 Oct 2006 03:06 PDT |
In defense of Pinkfreud, Steph53 and myself, our comments were not unkind, perhaps not entirely serious, but Pinky's pointed in the right direction: avoid environmental degradation rather than assuage one's conscience by paying for "appropriate credits". |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: probonopublico-ga on 07 Oct 2006 09:26 PDT |
Noel, I have a proposal that solves EVERYTHING: Use plastic flowers for the occasion ... They are very low maintenance and last forever! I submit that the one-time cost of plastic (in terms of environmental emissions) will be less than the equivalent lifetime cost of the natural products with all their maintenance requirements. If anyone wants to call me 'Genius', I won't object. Oh yes, and Best Wishes to you and your bride on the upcoming nuptials. Bryan Who, by pulling it all together, has now made everything possible |
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From: alienontoe-ga on 08 Oct 2006 07:12 PDT |
Excellent question. Part of your solution may involve setting up a charitable registry, instead of a traditional gift registry. A site called the I Do foundation allows you to invite your guests to donate on your behalf to environmental organisations including: Amazon Watch EarthRights International Center for Health, Environment and Justice Earth Conservation Corps Rainforest Alliance Trees for Life http://www.idofoundation.org/ Consider the unnecessary resources wasted in gifts and their packaging, if you feel you're already rich enough. In terms of dresses, suits and rings, consider going vintage! |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: qed100-ga on 10 Oct 2006 08:04 PDT |
I've never been a fan of large weddings. I consider them to be wastefully expensive considering the very short time -perhaps just a single day at most- that the bride, groom & guests get to indulge. All that money would be much better spent investing in your future wellfare, such as buying a house, or just starting off debt-free. But it's still your decision. You just need to decide once & for all what your priorities are. If what you want most is lots of guests, then go for it. If you're dedicated to minimizing your impact upon the ecology, then have a small wedding. |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: dops-ga on 10 Oct 2006 14:09 PDT |
I'm assuming the comment by hedgie is toungue-in-cheek and not a display of complete ignorance. Why bother with the wedding at all? I think the whole wedding display is an exercise in excess. Ride your bike down to the court-house and have a civil ceremony. You can then take the money you've sved and donate it to your favorite environmental group. In this way you can make a difference and not just maintain the status-quo. |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: ericpa-ga on 17 Oct 2006 04:42 PDT |
Travel is very probably responsible of 95% of carbon emissions of your wedding. Thus, calculating the emissions due to, for instance, food, will be very time consuming and probably won't change the range of magnitude of the result(you can try and see by yourself if you want to be sure !). I run Climat Mundi (http://www.climatmundi.fr, with English version available)a French company specisalized in carbon offsetting, and we propose a pack for a carbon neutral wedding, which we estimated around 10 t CO2 (for 150 persons at the party, driving from not too far distances (we are in France, not in USA, and distances are smaller !!), a long haul flight for the just married couple, and food and drink for the party). Nevertheless, we are not base near Toronto. For a organisation based near Toronto, I would recommand Offsetters (http://www.offsetters.ca/) : They are closer. Have a nice wedding ! Eric |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: adaptordie-ga on 18 Oct 2006 13:55 PDT |
Go to Offsetters.org, a Canadian carbon offsets website. The site has an emissions calculator for airline flights as well as links to several other reputable sites offering general emissions calculators. You should be able to use a combination of these tools to figure out an approximate amount of carbon produced by your event. You, or your wedding guests, can then purchase carbon offsets through the website. The money goes towards alternative energy and reforestation projects that either reduce carbon emissions or help to sequester carbon in biomass (trees). The projects used to offset carbon emissions in Offsetters.org are also credible and measurable. The project was initiated by a group of professors and researchers at UBC. Another bonus is that Westjet has partnered with Offsetters to pay for the carbon offsets caused by its flights. To take advantage of this, you must book flights through the link provided on the Offsetters.com website. Very cool! Other commentators are correct: the flights are by far the biggest source of carbon emissions. Another important area to consider is your catering. Average distance that food travels from farm to table is about 2500km. You can greatly reduce the environmental impact of your wedding by working with a caterer who sources locally-grown, organic food. I applaud your efforts and hope this information was helpful! |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: noelsemple1-ga on 20 Oct 2006 10:25 PDT |
Many thanks to all the helpful commenters. I've learned a lot from this! -Noel |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: greenarchitect-ga on 20 Oct 2006 12:28 PDT |
This is not difficult. Ignore the neo-con idiot comments. There are many good measures that couples can take with regard to a carbon neutral wedding. My fiance and I have just begun to plan our carbon neutral wedding. Here are some of our ideas so far, and we've just begun: 1. Choose a location that reduces travel for the most guests. 2. Buy carbon credits for those who fly. 3. Request as wedding gifts, donations to environmental organizations. 4. Hire a caterer who only uses organic food. 5. Choose not to serve red meat. 6. Get married at a "green" venue; a place that supports sustainability 7. If you use plastic utensils, buy the soy based biodegradable products. 8. Get serious & calculate your CO2 emissions, so people take you seriously. 9. Educate your guests about the wedding being carbon neutral. 10. Email invitations instead of paper. 11. Use 100% recycled paper products. 12. Divert 100% of all trash from landfills through recycling. 13. If you buy diamonds, make sure they are Conflict-Free. 14. Hire businesses that practice sustainable principles internally. 15. Register for "green" products. 16. Transport your guests from their hotels with a shuttle. Good luck. M |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: nelson-ga on 22 Oct 2006 18:25 PDT |
The whole concept of carbon credits sounds like total bullshit. Who comes up with this crap? |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: frde-ga on 22 Oct 2006 23:28 PDT |
Well said Nelson-ga The whole thing is a fabricated scare that is being used to beat people round the head. |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: answerfinder-ga on 03 Nov 2006 07:23 PST |
Not quite what you asked for but this may interest you. http://www.foe.co.uk/living/poundsavers/green_weddings.html |
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Re: Carbon-Neutral Wedding
From: billcollins-ga on 03 Nov 2006 08:39 PST |
the idea that you can somehow 'offset' CO2 emissions from fossil fuels is very marie antoinette. Take the idea of forest sequestration, can you really claim responsibility for the CO2 absorbing effect of a patch of land, when there is clearly not enough land on earth for everone to do this? If you really want a carbon-neutral wedding, then cut out the flights and the road trips. Stop being like al gore, flying around the place like as if there is no tomorrow, and meanwhile telling everyone about how is going to save the planet. Destroy the planet if you want, but don't be all eco-friendly as you are doing it. Now, who is for some cake?? |
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