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 Subject: Solar cell trickle charger for car Category: Science > Technology Asked by: spudulike-ga List Price: \$5.00 Posted: 12 Oct 2006 09:17 PDT Expires: 11 Nov 2006 08:17 PST Question ID: 772923
 ```I have a Solar cell trickle charger for my car. The trickle charger says that it has a Diode to prevent battery discharge. If I have a double lighter socket in my car can I connect two of the trickle chargers at the same time? The double socket seems to have a common +/- for the two sockets. The Solar panel is rated 1.5W @ 17.5V (on a nice bright day!). Finally. If 2 panels, why not 4?```
 Subject: Re: Solar cell trickle charger for car Answered By: aht-ga on 12 Oct 2006 22:56 PDT Rated:
 ```spudulike-ga: Thanks for your Question. I actually have two very similarly-rated solar panels that I've directly wired (in parallel) into my car's electrical system to help keep my car battery topped up, just like you've described. While a couple of watts is not enough to prevent the battery from being drained if I'm forgetful enough to leave the lights on, it *is* enough to help balance off the parasitic consumption of all the various electronic devices that need to maintain their settings in memory while the engine is off (ie. the audio system, the trip computer, etc). The answer to your question lies in a couple of simple electrical principles. First, let's start with the diode(s) in the panel(s). If you aren't already familiar with how a diode operates, please check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diode#Semiconductor_diodes Essentially, in one direction, any voltage potential greater than about 0.6 VDC will cause the diode to have essentially zero resistance, so current can flow freely. In the opposite direction, current basically cannot flow. So, if the solar panel is generating greater than 0.6 VDC, technically current can flow out from it. Since the panel is hooked up to your car's electrical system through the cigarette lighter adapter, effectively the panel will need to generate at least the same voltage as the battery's voltage before current will flow. Conversely, if the panel is not generating at least the same voltage as the battery's voltage, power from the battery is prevented from reaching the panel by the diode(s), thus preventing electrical damage to the panel. The next principle is that of voltage potential. If you think of voltage as being analogous to water pressure, and if you think of the diode as being similar to a spring-loaded flapper valve, then imagine a situation where you have two pumps, both trying to pump water into a water tower where the only way in is through a pipe at the bottom of the tank. In order for either pump to push water up into the tower, it needs to generate enough water pressure (again, think voltage) to exceed the pressure being exerted by the water already in the tank. As long as either pump can do this, water will flow up into the tank. If both pumps are pushing, they need to push with the same pressure, otherwise the flapper valve for the weaker pump will close to prevent water from running backwards into the pump due to the higher pressure(ie. just like the diode protects the panel). While this analogy is very basic, it's a good way of understanding how the two panels would work with each other to charge the battery, and how if one of the panels is 'stronger' than the other, it will do the bulk of the work. This is extendable to more than two panels, too. So you can have two, three, four, or more panels all in parallel working to charge your battery. And, just like with the pumps and the water tower, the more panels you have, the more water (in this case, electrical charge) gets pumped. If one of the panels goes bad and no longer generates usable power, the others will continue to work away, and the diode in the bad panel will protect it from reverse current flow that can drain power from your system. This is actually the approach used in those solar-powered racers that engineering students build and race across Australia's Outback every year. Enough solar cells are connected in series to generate sufficient voltage to power the drive motors and charge the batteries, then enough banks of cells are connected in parallel to generate enough current so that enough wattage (power) is delivered to the drive motors to propel the vehicle at racing speeds. Again, an overly simplified description, but suitable for this explanation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Solar_Challenge I hope that this answers your question; please let me know if you need me to clarify any part of this Answer! Regards, aht-ga Google Answers Researcher``` Request for Answer Clarification by spudulike-ga on 13 Oct 2006 01:35 PDT ```Thank you for your superb explanation. Is it best, in the sense of the most efficiency, then to have two panels wired in parallel (I assume + to + and - to -, I know nothing about electrical design) then out through a Diode?``` Clarification of Answer by aht-ga on 14 Oct 2006 22:46 PDT ```It is best to leave in place the diodes that are built into the panels, then wire the positive and negative wires together (ie. in parallel). You want to leave the diode in place, so that if one panel gets extra sunlight relative to the other panel, and ends up producing higher voltage than the other, it doesn't cause a problem for the other panel. By leaving the diode in place, reverse current flow is prevented, and keeps everything safe.```
 spudulike-ga rated this answer: ```Fantastic answer with great detail. For a novice like me you have been a great help. Thank You.```

 ```If one battery charger won't keep your battery charged, it probably has a problem somewhere.```
 ```This was a hypothetical question as I have not tried it out. Also, a local store is selling the panels cheap. I can never resist buying cheap technology!```
 `Great explanation, Aht!`