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Sad Story
Category: Science > Social Sciences Asked by: dprk007-ga List Price: $40.00 |
Posted:
16 Oct 2006 22:32 PDT
Expires: 15 Nov 2006 21:32 PST Question ID: 774258 |
A man lives in town A. One day he goes to town B for an appointment. After the appointment he returns to town A by train. On the way back on the train he commits suicide. If he had been in the Smoking Department of the train as opposed to the Non-smoking department he would not have committed suicide. Please explain the train of events (pardon the pun) leading up to his suicide. Sincerely DPRK007 |
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Re: Sad Story
Answered By: denco-ga on 16 Oct 2006 23:59 PDT Rated: |
Howdy DPRK007, The following is a combination of some of the variations of this situation puzzle, with dramatic embellishments of my own. The man, a famous artist, who was blinded, is returning from his medical appointment intended to restore his vision. This is an operation for which he has spent his last dime, and is a one time shot at restoring his sight. It appears that the operation has been a success for the man can actually see, although somewhat poorly, at the doctor's office. There is to be a recovery period, naturally, so the man's eyes are bandaged. Full of bravado, he has taken a familiar bus route to the appointment, but because of scheduling, decides to take an unfamiliar train ride home. Although he has been warned not to remove the bandages lest the operation would be more likely to fail, when the train stops, he panics and he takes the bandages off. He finds himself unable to see, so he thinks that the operation has failed, and that he is now permanently blind! Thinking of how he is penniless and will never see nor paint again, he is grief stricken and commits suicide! Alas, if he had only realized that the train car lights did not work when the train was stopped, and that this particular train stopped in a long tunnel to let another train pass, plunging the cars in total darkness at this point every trip. Alas, even more, that he, because of concerns of irritation of his eyes, had ridden in a non-smoking compartment. For if he had ridden in a car that had allowed smoking, he would have at least seen the glow of the lit cigarettes around him, assuring him that his sight was still restored! A sad story indeed. If you need any clarification, please feel free to ask. Search strategy: I was a contributer to the rec.puzzles newsgroup, and live on in an archive. I like cabins on the sides of mountains and the number 13. For more, see "rec.puzzles Archive (logic), part 25 of 35" http://www.faqs.org/faqs/puzzles/archive/logic/part4/ Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher | |
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Great Answer denco! Just one point of curiosity What was your search strategy? Kind Regards DPRK007 |
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Re: Sad Story
From: probonopublico-ga on 16 Oct 2006 22:52 PDT |
Unable to get a seat in the 'Smokers', he has to sit in the 'Nons'. Craving for a fag, he sticks his head out of the window and indulges. Unfortunately, the train enters a tunnel and he is decapitated. It is considered suicide because he ignored the warning notices. |
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Re: Sad Story
From: denco-ga on 17 Oct 2006 00:00 PDT |
Nice one Bryan! |
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Re: Sad Story
From: answerfinder-ga on 17 Oct 2006 00:12 PDT |
I?m more familiar with the one told by Bryan. This is a very, very old problem. I remember my father telling me it circa 1960. Goes back to the days of individual train compartments and the large drop down windows in the doors. There was a notice at the top of the window 'Do not lean out of the window' or words to that effect. As a kid you would ignore it and stick your head out of the window and withdraw it at the last second before going into a tunnel. The compartment would then also be filled with smoke and fumes much to annoyance of other passengers. In fact, I seem to recall my favourite spot was Clayton Tunnel which Bryan will know very well. |
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Re: Sad Story
From: denco-ga on 17 Oct 2006 00:34 PDT |
The only drawback is the "It is considered suicide because he ignored the warning notices" part. What you describe is called "death by misadventure," also known as "death by stupidty," and not suicide. |
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Re: Sad Story
From: denco-ga on 17 Oct 2006 00:44 PDT |
Must... get... sleep. That muck should have read: The only drawback is the "It is considered suicide because he ignored the warning notices" part. What you describe is called "death by misadventure," also known as "death by stupidity," and not suicide. [Furthermore] The puzzle calls for the person to "commit suicide," and not for the death to be ruled suicide. Also, what of the "One day he goes to town B for an appointment" part of the puzzle? It is there for a reason. This variant sounds more urban legend than puzzle answer. |
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Re: Sad Story
From: probonopublico-ga on 17 Oct 2006 01:54 PDT |
Hi All I wasn't aware of the urban legend - Honest! I just made a stab at a likely story. I didn't reckon the 'appointment' aspect as important but, looking forward, I bow to Denco's superior wisdom in such matters. Nevertheless ... I find it hard to believe that our hero would have committed suicide in the circumstances given in D's version. Whether or not it was suicide in my scenario is, I submit, a matter for the Coroner's Inquest ... And you've got to remember that, in the case of an accident, the Railway Company could be liable for damages. So, pressure would be applied to ensure a suicide verdict. In the real world, that's how things are done. (I think) Bryo |
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Re: Sad Story
From: denco-ga on 17 Oct 2006 03:13 PDT |
Situation puzzles are rarely all that likely or real world. The "midget in the elevator" and the variations of being shot with an ice bullet or stabbed with a icicle, well, they are just plain silly. They are just puzzles to get people to think outside the box. I thought yours was a good stab, Bryon, as you are rarely boxed in. I also doubt the Railway Company would be liable for death by stupidity. D- |
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Re: Sad Story
From: iang-ga on 17 Oct 2006 09:39 PDT |
>There was a notice at the top of the window 'Do not lean out of the window' or words to that effect. Those are the exact words - they were often changed to 'Do not clean soot off the window'. Ian G. |
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Re: Sad Story
From: probonopublico-ga on 17 Oct 2006 11:44 PDT |
OK .... All objections noted! So here's a new scenario which I am proud to dedicate to The Colorado Kid humself ... Two-Gun Denco ... the fastest draw ever. The Colorado Kid and Belle Pinkerton Floyd, his floozy, were going through a tough time. As always, The Kid was short of readies and, as always, Belle was having to make all the dough to keep him in baccy, rye and blackjack stakes ... We need not go into details. Anyway, Belle gave The Kid an ultimatum: either he got some dough double quick or she'd catch the next stage coach to Hollywood where she planned to make it big. The Kid took this on board and he immediately sent a carrier pigeon to Tulsa and asked his contact there to make an appointment for him at the Chase Manhattan. This was how The Kid always operated: make an appointment with the Bank Manager and then ... The following day, The Kid caught the Orient Express to Tulsa, travelling as was his wont in a smoking car. When he arrived in Tulsa, he found the Bank closed. He had forgotten it was Christmas Day. He just managed to catch the next Orient Express back to Denver but he was horrified to discover that all the smoker seats were already taken. There was no alternative: he had to travel in a Non coach. He was already suicidal at screwing up on the planned bank job and now this! He made his displeasure known to his fellow passengers, one of whom kindly suggested that he take a suicide pill. The Kid replied he would if only he had one. Whereupon each of his fellow passengers offered him one of theirs. Without any more ado, he swallowed the lot. At the inquest, the Coroner had no hesitation in pronouncing that it was clearly a case of Suicide on the Orient Express. Looking Forward Con-Ed |
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Re: Sad Story
From: dprk007-ga on 17 Oct 2006 16:20 PDT |
Denco Apologies for my rather silly question about the search strategy. It looks like you are already very familiar with this type of puzzle Many Thanks again DPRK007 |
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Re: Sad Story
From: myoarin-ga on 17 Oct 2006 17:38 PDT |
I want to know that Denco Researcher has broken the mold and moved out of the one digit questions and how he did it without a single hyperlink. Congratulations! Myoarin commenter ;-) |
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Re: Sad Story
From: denco-ga on 17 Oct 2006 21:56 PDT |
Much thanks for the kind comment, 5 star rating and the question in the first place, DPRK007. Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher |
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Re: Sad Story
From: probonopublico-ga on 17 Oct 2006 22:01 PDT |
Great question; great answer ... And great fun, too! I just loved The Colorado Kid. Looking forward Nayrb |
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Re: Sad Story
From: denco-ga on 17 Oct 2006 22:30 PDT |
Bryan - I would think that the bank would have been closed for Boxing Day. If Agatha Christie had only lived in the old west, she could have written a story about a man from China riding on a train known for the peculiarly scarlet colored alcoholic drink served on board. She could have written, using the vernacular of the time ... "Orient on the Red Rum Express" Myoarin - Well, one hyperlink snuck in, but the sentiment is greatly and sincerely appreciated. Bryan - The only time in my life I ever had a nickname was during the few years I spent in Chicago, doing "errands" for some guys whose names had lots of vowels. Around these fellows, I was always called "The Kid." |
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