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How Do Astronauts See The Earth?
Category: Science Asked by: braitman-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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20 Oct 2006 16:48 PDT
Expires: 19 Nov 2006 15:48 PST Question ID: 775475 |
When astronauts look outside their window in space during a normal orbit, do they see the Earth from a north-south perspective (North Pole at top)? In other words, are they "right side up" in relationship to our normal view of Earth geography? If this is true, why is it true? Since space is a vacuum and with no gravity, should it matter whether they see the North Pole or South Pole "on top"? Or are they oriented towards a North Pole view simply because of convention? (That is, our Northern Hemispheric bias!) Thanks, Stephen |
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Re: How Do Astronauts See The Earth?
Answered By: maniac-ga on 20 Oct 2006 18:18 PDT Rated: |
Hello Braitman, No, when the astronauts look outside their window in space, their orientation (and thus their view) in general has no relationship to the north-south perspective of earth. As an example, see http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view_rec.php?id=1519 which shows parts of Lake Ontario, Lake Erie, the Finger Lakes, the St. Lawrence and Niagara Rivers. The perspective in this image is not north/south (from the glare, it appears to be taken from east to west). The Visible Earth site at http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/ has a number of images, most have been rectified to be oriented with north at the top, but not in all cases. A quick search of "orientation" or "perspective" on that site http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/search.php?q=orientation http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/search.php?q=perspective yields a number of images that are not necessarily with north at the top. As another example, you may want to view the images at http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/moon/gallery/g_01.html which is a gallery of nine images from Apollo 8. You can see the shadow (sunrise / sunset) quite clearly on many of these. The shadow goes roughly from "north" to "south" and from the images, the shadow crosses almost horizontally in the first image and varies (if visible) in each successive image. So the astronauts in taking these pictures did not get "right side up" as you put it when taking all these pictures. For more information, you may want to search with phrases such as earth image earth image perspective images earth site:nasa.gov earthrise over moon and similar phrases. --Maniac | |
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Thanks very much. You further clarified a social psychology for me in noting that most images from space that we see have "been rectified to be oriented with north at the top." This leads me to assume that astronauts see Earth geography in any number of orientations, and may be sometimes confused at what they are seeing since their view is not the "normal" North-South position of terrestial geography. The only question that remains is whether there is a "normal" astronaut orbiting position (Space Shuttle, Space Station, etc.) that follows a longitudinal path (rather than latitudinal) and places their cockpit orientation towards the North Pole rather than the South Pole. This may sound vaguely ludicrous, but I'm actually interested in knowing if this kind of orbital orientation is at all considered in space flight for (perhaps) psychological coherence and/or other communications logic, etc. Thanks! |
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Re: How Do Astronauts See The Earth?
From: myoarin-ga on 20 Oct 2006 18:45 PDT |
In addition, satellites orbit the earth on various paths and are not oriented relative to the earth. The space stations with solar power are oriented to the sun at all times, regardless of their orbit. "Rightside up" has no meaning in the astronauts' environment. Regardless of how the astronaut was seeing the earth when s/he takes a photo, it is most likely that it will be reproduced in the N-S orientation that conforms with the way maps are printed to be easily recognizable. |
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Re: How Do Astronauts See The Earth?
From: probonopublico-ga on 20 Oct 2006 22:47 PDT |
Myo ... The piccies could be made into a book! Why is it that all the good ideas come from me? You really must try harder. Bryo |
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Re: How Do Astronauts See The Earth?
From: myoarin-ga on 21 Oct 2006 06:23 PDT |
Some kinda of out of space book? ;-) But that reminded me that until Google Earth updated its photos, the one of my little town was obviously taken from the north looking south, which looked funny when zoomed in from the south, a bit of the north sides of the buildings visible. That has nothing to do with the question, however. |
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Re: How Do Astronauts See The Earth?
From: xceqter-ga on 22 Oct 2006 14:30 PDT |
they just spehere with 2 pole. can figure out which south n north by land figure. all of us know the earth by looking at mape so north or south easyly to figure out. we use pole only when we on land. on space we use sun direction. so there will be no matter if it up or down. no one know what space look like they just know what they can see. n what more complicated is where is begining and ending coz everything have its borders. |
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Re: How Do Astronauts See The Earth?
From: jibal-ga on 07 Nov 2006 16:45 PST |
"Since space is a vacuum and with no gravity" Being in a vacuum has no relation to being affected by gravity; e.g., the moon has no atmosphere but still exerts gravitational force (on moondust, moon landers, moon walkers, and even terrestrial tides). And neither has any bearing on your question, which is strictly about orientation. A jet pilot who inverts his plane will see the earth upside down. Turn a map upside down, or stand on your head, and it will appear with the North pole on the bottom. All of this should be obvious -- I would question what your mental process was when you posed the question. Orbit a teacup around a basketball with "N" printed at one end; would a little man in the teacup see the "N" at the top? It of course depends upon the orientation of the teacup relative to the basketball, and has nothing to do with vacuums or gravity. |
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Re: How Do Astronauts See The Earth?
From: jibal-ga on 07 Nov 2006 16:51 PST |
"You further clarified a social psychology for me in noting that most images from space that we see have "been rectified to be oriented with north at the top." Not just images from space, but all maps; there's nothing inherently "upward" about North, and reorienting photos is no different from reorienting maps. |
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