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Murder most foul
Category: Relationships and Society > Law Asked by: mongolia-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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28 Oct 2006 18:09 PDT
Expires: 27 Nov 2006 17:09 PST Question ID: 777919 |
A member of the UN staff (not American) is found murdered in the New York UN building. Who would do the murder investigation and how would it proceed? Also if someone where charged with the Murder, where and by whom would he/she be tried? Mongolia |
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Re: Murder most foul
From: pafalafa-ga on 28 Oct 2006 18:21 PDT |
Hey mongo...have you been hanging out with jeraboo by any chance? |
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Re: Murder most foul
From: mongolia-ga on 28 Oct 2006 18:26 PDT |
And somebody is going to suggest we are the same people :-) |
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Re: Murder most foul
From: canadianhelper-ga on 28 Oct 2006 19:27 PDT |
From the horses mouth. An international territory The site of UN Headquarters is owned by the United Nations. It is an international territory. No federal, state or local officer or official of the United States, whether administrative, judicial, military or police may enter UN Headquarters except with the consent of and under conditions agreed to by the Secretary-General of the Organization. However, the United Nations is bound by an agreement with its host country to prevent its Headquarters from being used as a refuge for persons who are avoiding arrest under the federal, state or local laws of the United States or who are required by the Government of the United States for extradition to another country or who are trying to avoid the servicing of a legal process. http://www.un.org/geninfo/faq/factsheets/FS23.HTM |
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Re: Murder most foul
From: markvmd-ga on 29 Oct 2006 09:03 PST |
The FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) would be invited by the Secretary General to perfom the investigation. In the interest of international diplomacy, police elements from the host nation of the victim as well as Interpol would be involved as well. The trial would be at a location suitable to the Secretary and the victim's host nation. It might be in the US but some nations do not allow the death penalty. If the US stated it would not remove the death penalty from the trial options, the trial would likely be in The Hague or Helsinki. The extradition procedure would be interesting if the murderer is a US citizen. |
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Re: Murder most foul
From: jeraboo-ga on 29 Oct 2006 09:55 PST |
Lets say the perpetrator is an American and he wipes out the entire Iranian delegation. The US has no extradition treaty with Iran and doesnt even have diplomatic relations. The crime is not commited in the US or against a US citizen, so how does this individual get charged and by whom? |
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Re: Murder most foul
From: pinkfreud-ga on 29 Oct 2006 10:01 PST |
I have not read it, but I wonder if this work of fiction might be helpful: http://www.amazon.com/Murder-at-UN-novel-suspense/dp/0396073514 |
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Re: Murder most foul
From: canadianhelper-ga on 29 Oct 2006 14:16 PST |
Jeraboo...my link still answers your question... "the United Nations is bound by an agreement with its host country to prevent its Headquarters from being used as a refuge for persons who are avoiding arrest under the federal, state or local laws of the United States" |
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Re: Murder most foul
From: jeraboo-ga on 29 Oct 2006 18:06 PST |
But, I'm not suggesting he's using the UN as a refuge. I'm wondering what authority/jurisdiction would arrest and charge him and with what charge. |
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Re: Murder most foul
From: mongolia-ga on 04 Nov 2006 09:24 PST |
Some interesting though confusing comments about my question. The fact that the UN can not be used as a refuge is not totally relevent to my question. If someone were found murdered in the UN building there would be presumably be a process which would kick into place in order to identify the murderer. the comment by MARKVMD sounds a reasonable one. However when I did the little tour of the UN, the guide was at pains to stress that any outside security agency only got invited in at the request of the UN. This may mean one of two things -The UN in NY have their own internal security who would do the initial investigation - OR as MARKMVD points out the FBI would indeed be invited in -it just maybe the UN authorithy does not wish to advertise this fact. Jeraboo also brings up the very relevent issue of the victim's nationality. (He takes the case of the victim/s been Iranian). Lets say the victim was British - would Scotland Yard be involved? And lets say the murderer was Laotian Would this person be extradited to England to stand trial at the Old Bailey Or what if the victim were Cuban and the murderer was caught red-handed in the UN building and it turned out the murderer was British? what then would happen? Canadianhelper When you say from the Horse's mouthare you saying you work for the UN? Regards Mongolia |
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