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A Jeraboo-GA type Scenario
Category: Relationships and Society > Relationships Asked by: dprk007-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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06 Nov 2006 18:04 PST
Expires: 06 Dec 2006 18:04 PST Question ID: 780664 |
I understand the Queen of England and the Prime Minister have a weekly meeting every Tuesday (I believe held at BP and of course only when both are in town) Let's assume the following (purely hypothetical)event takes place After a particularly difficult day at the House of Commons Question Period, the Queen continues the interrogation of our dear Prime Minister. The PM in a fit of rage takes out a gun and shoots her (dead that is) Please verify that the following events would take place: 1. The Prime Minister would be arrested on a charge of Regicide. 2. Prince Charles would immediately become the reigning Monarch. 3. John Prescott would be sworn in as the new Prime Minister. 4. After a suitable period of calm Prince Charles would be formally crowned as King Charles III 5 Camilla would adopt the title of The First MOrgonoronic Queen of Scotland (Apologies I am having something of a Kemlo Moment) 6. There would be a trial at the Old Baily - King of England v His Old Buddy Tony Blair Kind Regards DPRK007 BTW The researcher attempting to answer this question should have no strong leanings to a Monarchistic or Republican point of view. Neither should they be in any way influenced by a current Movie doing the rounds. |
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Re: A Jeraboo-GA type Scenario
Answered By: answerfinder-ga on 07 Nov 2006 03:17 PST Rated: |
Dear dprk007-ga, What a scenario! I shall try to answer, but with this proposed constitutional crisis, it would require the best constitutional lawyers to confirm my answer, as indicated by the disclaimer at the bottom of this page. In English Law there is no offence of regicide. He would be arrested for Murder which is contrary to Common Law. Crown Prosecution Guidelines on Murder http://cps.gov.uk/legal/section5/chapter_a.html#_Toc13550491 Prince Charles would immediately become reigning monarch. The procedure for this is described on Royal.gov.uk. ?ACCESSION Accession describes the event of a new Sovereign taking the throne upon the death of the previous king or queen. The new Sovereign succeeds to the throne as soon as his or her predecessor dies and is at once proclaimed at an Accession Council in St James's Palace. All members of the Privy Council are summoned. Members of the House of Lords, the Lord Mayor and aldermen and other leading citizens of the City of London, and High Commissioners of Commonwealth countries are invited to attend. Following the proclamation, the Sovereign reads a declaration and takes the oath to preserve the Church of Scotland. The oath known as the accession declaration - an oath to maintain the established Protestant succession - is normally made at the next State Opening of Parliament. In London the public proclamation of the new Sovereign is first read out at St James's Palace. The proclamation is also read out publicly in Edinburgh, Windsor and York. In each city the accession is traditionally proclaimed at several different spots. If the monarch is under 18 on succeeding to the throne, there is provision for a regent to be appointed to perform the Royal functions. This can also happen if the monarch is totally incapacitated.? http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page4945.asp In the British Constitution there is no formal permanent office of Deputy Prime Minister, and (thank goodness) there is no guarantee that John Prescott would automatically step up and become Prime Minster. For the King appoints the Prime Minster and he could refuse him. There are other potential problems and these are discussed in this wikipedia article. It also notes that ?Except in exceptional circumstances it is thought unlikely that a prime minister would ever be dismissed. Stanley de Smith and Rodney Brazier, Constitutional and Administrative Law (Penguin, 1989) p.116.? Clearly this is an exceptional circumstance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deputy_Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom A Coronation would occur later. Again the procedure for this is described on Royal.gov.uk. ?The coronation of the new Sovereign follows some months after his or her accession, following a period of mourning and as a result of the enormous amount of preparation required to organise the ceremony.? http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page4946.asp As mentioned below there is some speculation about which name Charles will take. None has been officially confirmed. Royal.gov.uk ?When Prince Charles becomes king, which name will he use - King Charles III? I have read that he is planning to use King George VII? In the event that The Prince of Wales becomes king, he can choose the name by which he wishes to be known. It is by no means certain that a king or queen will choose the first name given to them at birth. The Queen's own father, King George VI, is a case in point. His first name was actually Albert, but he decided on taking the name George on acceding the throne.? http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page2299.asp Times Newspaper ?A Clarence House spokesman said that there had been long-term thinking about the Coronation, but that the possibility of changing the Princes's prospective title had not been discussed officially. He added: ?One of the questions that we have asked is what he will be known as. The decision will be taken at the time.? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1958477,00.html I?m not sure what you mean by First Morgonoronic Queen. However, Camilla will not be referred to as Queen. She will be using the title of HRH The Princess Consort. She could refuse and keep title Duchess of Cornwall as her principal title, much as the Duke of Edinburgh has done. She will have no constitutional role and will not see State papers. ?It is intended that Mrs Parker Bowles should use the title HRH The Princess Consort when The Prince of Wales accedes to The Throne.? http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/news/2005/02.feb/marriage.php Now that has been announced, this will not occur in Camilla?s case. Royal.gov.uk ?Unless decided otherwise, a Queen consort is crowned with the King, in a similar but simpler ceremony.? http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page4946.asp There would be a trial at the Old Bailey on an indictment of Murder. Regina v. Blair. I hope this answers your question. (Some of the answer has been drawn from my former experience as a police officer.) If it does not, or the answer is unclear, then please ask for clarification of this research before rating the answer. I shall respond to the clarification request as soon as I receive it. Thank you answerfinder P.S. Unbiased answer. Not seen the film. | |
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Hi Answerfinder Many thanks for answering a question which I thought no researcher would touch. As well as interesting your answer was precise and to the point. Your little freudian slip was also interesting "Regina versus Blair" should of course be as the sub-editor points out "Kingy versus Blair" DPRK007 |
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Re: A Jeraboo-GA type Scenario
From: probonopublico-ga on 06 Nov 2006 21:43 PST |
Wrong! Charlie has said that he will want to be known as King George VII ... It ain't unusual for monarchs to opt for a different name. After all, Charlies I and II had a few probs, did they not? I can't really see Tony getting arrested ... there would first have to be a 'full enquiry' and, after the cover ups whenever innocents are shot by the police, I'm sure that the Met would 'co-operate fully'. And wouldn't their two bodyguards have a shoot out first? In any event, I can't believe that Queenie would be silly enough to grant an audience to Tony without having him frisked first and without the Household Cavalry also in attendance, just in case ... Otherwise why would she keep any Cavalry in her house? Typically, horses are not house trained. Believe me, I used to be a Trooper in the 10th Royal Hussars. |
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Re: A Jeraboo-GA type Scenario
From: dprk007-ga on 06 Nov 2006 22:15 PST |
Jeepers Bryan! I didn't know your such a morning person. Its 1.00 AM here in Toronto which by my calculation must make it 6.00 AM in Hovie. Anyway back to Charles. Nice He can choose any name he wants. But why on Earth George !! I thought the George Kings were all a bunch of German eejits. Now Henry that would be a good choice. Henry The Ninth would be great DPRK007 |
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Re: A Jeraboo-GA type Scenario
From: probonopublico-ga on 06 Nov 2006 23:19 PST |
Hi 007 Yup ... I'm always up early, by 5 a.m. at the latest. Say, I never knew you were in Toronto! You must know Steph53 (The GA-laxy's Pin Up Girl), she's another resident. Watch out for a white Honda driven by a gorgeous blonde, usually on the wrong side of the road. Most Torontonians who know Steph understandably give way to her when she's driving. I dunno why Charlie wants to become a Georgie but it's his shout. And no - not all the Georgies are German spies, although they used to be. No 5 severed the links during WWI by changing his very German-sounding surname (Saxe-Coburg-Gotha) to the more English-sounding 'Windsor'. Otherwise, he may have been interned in the Tower or shot. Of course, No 5 had previously married a German fraulein (Princess Mary of Teck). It has just occurred to me .... Are YOU Jeraboo? Bryan |
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Re: A Jeraboo-GA type Scenario
From: frde-ga on 07 Nov 2006 01:33 PST |
George V was pretty smart - his dropping hints brought about The Parliament Act that removed the total veto from the House of Lords - that was a very significant event Oddly, Edward VIII was called David by everyone. Somehow I don't think that Blair has the physical ability to shoot anyone, but even so it is your scenario. Charles would become king John Prescott would not /automatically/ become Prime Minister, the Monarch 'invites' someone to become PM - more likely the Labour Party would errupt in a leadership contest I'm not sure what would happen about Camilla, she has been getting good press of late - I would envisage a media campaign in her favour. I doubt Blair would stand trial, he would probably be declared insane - which would not be far from the truth |
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Re: A Jeraboo-GA type Scenario
From: probonopublico-ga on 07 Nov 2006 07:00 PST |
Regina v Blair, Answerfinder, are you absolutely sure? Bryan A mere Sub-Editor to the Rich and Famous. |
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Re: A Jeraboo-GA type Scenario
From: steph53-ga on 07 Nov 2006 07:11 PST |
Hi dprk007-ga... As Bryan told you, I am INDEED a fellow Torontonian!!! But, I DO drive on the right side of the roads....I just tend to go a little fast, that all ;) Steph 53 in Toronto |
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Re: A Jeraboo-GA type Scenario
From: dprk007-ga on 10 Nov 2006 16:51 PST |
Hi Ya Steph Fifty Three Great to hear you are a fellow Torontonian! (For some reason I thught you were in the one other centre of civilisation in Ontario i.e. Thunderbay) Although I am transplanted frm the other side of the pond I am now established at the centre of the Universe (i.e. Bloor and Yonge locality) Unfortunately I work in Darkest Richmond Hill so i get to see more of the TTC than I really want) DPRK007 DPRK007 |
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