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 Subject: Research weight of rattlesnake (4.50) Category: Sports and Recreation > Outdoors Asked by: beachbum77-ga List Price: \$4.50 Posted: 08 Nov 2006 16:39 PST Expires: 08 Dec 2006 16:39 PST Question ID: 781201
 ```Got this picture via email from a friend. Have a discussion going on about the weight as it seems that if it weighed 97 pounds, you would not be able to hold it like pictured. Picture of snake is at - http://newlifemilwaukie.org/images/stories/temp/texas_rattlesnake_9feet1inch_97lbs.jpg Same snake can also be seen by searching "texas rattlesnake" on google.```
 ```Hello beachbum77-ga, Your question sent me on a fascinating journey learning about rattlesnakes. Following your suggestion to search for ?texas rattlesnake? I immediately found the Urban Legends Reference Pages that claim the snake is 9 feet long and weighs 97 pounds. http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/txsnake.asp Texas Rattlesnake Claim: Photograph shows a 9-foot rattlesnake caught in Texas. (9 feet, 1 inch - 97 lbs.) Status: Undetermined. The proportions seem impossible. A nine foot snake weighing 97 pounds would be ten pounds per foot and the appearance of the snake in the picture doesn?t seem to be that hefty. It also seems unlikely that the pole could support the weight and the man holding it could hoist 97 pounds so casually. After some further investigation I found a page from a zoo that gives a formula for the length-weight relationship of rattlesnakes which states that ?a seven-foot wild rattler would weigh about 15 pounds and an eight-foot snake would weigh 23 pounds.? According to this formula a nine-foot snake could not possibly weigh 97 pounds. http://www.fresnochaffeezoo.com/animals/rattleSnakes.html Rattlesnakes PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: Length: Some of the smallest species of rattlesnakes seldom exceed 2 feet in length, and some may exceed 6 feet (if they survive man and other dangers). Weight: Using a formula of length-weight relationships, a seven-foot wild rattler would weigh about 15 pounds and an eight-foot snake would weigh 23 pounds. I next investigated Texas rattlesnakes and discovered the two largest rattlesnakes found in Texas are the Western Diamondback and the Timber Rattlesnake. I found that Western Diamondbacks average 3-4 feet and the longest one found was about 84 inches or 7 feet. Another reference showed a Western Diamondback that was 5 feet long and about 15 pounds. Timber Rattlesnakes grow to about 100 inches and weigh up to 2 pounds. WESTERN DIAMONDBACK RATTLESNAKE (CROTALUS ATROX) ------------------------------------------------ http://www.thebigzoo.com/Animals/Western_Diamondback_Rattlesnake.asp Western Diamondback Rattlesnake Crotalus atrox The Western diamondback rattlesnake is the largest western rattlesnake. It has a plump body, a short tail, and a broad, triangular head that is very distinct from the body. It can be yellowish gray, pale blue, or pinkish and has dark diamond shape marks down its back. --- http://www.zo.utexas.edu/research/txherps/snakes/crotalus.atrox.html Crotalus atrox Western Diamondback Rattlesnake The Western Diamondback Rattlesnake is the most commonly encountered rattlesnake in Texas. The Western Diamondback is the longest rattlesnake in the state, and one of the two heaviest (the other is the Timber Rattlesnake). The record length is over 213 cm (84 in); adults found in the wild typically measure between 0.91-1.21 m (3-4 ft). --- http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Crotalus_atrox.html Crotalus atrox (western diamondback rattlesnake) Physical Description Body length: ~1.5 meters Body weight: up to 6.7 kg. --- http://www.chimpletons.com/convert/from/kg/to/lb 6.7 kg. = 14.7709716 lb. http://www.chimpletons.com/convert/from/1.5+meters/to/feet 1.5 meters = 4.9212599 feet TIMBER RATTLESNAKE (CROTALUS HORRIDUS) -------------------------------------- http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/species/timberrattlesnake/ Timber Rattlesnake (Crotalus horridus) Description Timber rattlesnakes have wide heads and narrow necks?a typical distinction of all venomous snakes except coral snakes (Micrurus fulvius). Timber rattlers are the second largest venomous snake in Texas and third largest in the United States. Adult timber rattlesnakes reach a length of 36 to 40 inches (91 to 101 cm), and weigh 1.3 to 2 pounds (0.58 to 0.9 kg). http://pick4.pick.uga.edu/mp/20q?search=Crotalus+horridus&guide=Snakes http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Crotalus_horridus.html Crotalus horridus (timber rattlesnake) Physical Description Mass 500 to 1000 g; avg. 750 g (17.6 to 35.2 oz; avg. 26.4 oz) Adult timber rattlesnakes range from 36-60 inches (90-152 cm) in length, and the record length for the species is 74.5 in. (189.2 cm). They exhibit sexual dimorphism; the males are larger, weighing around 2.0 lb. while the females weigh on an average 1.3 lb. --- http://pick4.pick.uga.edu/mp/20q?search=Crotalus+horridus&guide=Snakes Crotalus horridus Canebrake rattlesnake, Timber rattlesnake I continued my explorations to see if some snake that was similar to Texas rattlesnakes might be bigger and heavier and closer to the claim made regarding your picure. I found that Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake is larger than the Western Diamondback. The record holder was found in the Everglades National park and measured not quite 8 feet and 20 pounds. EASTERN DIAMONDBACK RATTLESNAKE (CROTALUS ADAMANTEUS) ----------------------------------------------------- http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-rattlesnake.html Class: Reptilia (Reptiles) Genus: Crotalus and Sistrurus, with Crotalus species being the largest and most widespread Length: Largest?eastern diamondback Crotalus adamanteus at up to 8 feet (2.4 meters); smallest?ridge-nosed rattlesnake Crotalus willardi at 12 inches long (30.5 centimeters). Most species are 24 to 48 inches long (61 to 122 centimeters). Weight: eastern diamondback?4 to 10 pounds (1.8 to 4.5 kilograms); ridge-nosed rattlesnake?3 to 4 ounces (85 to 113 grams) --- http://www.seaworld.org/animal-info/animal-bytes/animalia/eumetazoa/coelomates/deuterostomes/chordata/craniata/reptilia/squamata/eastern-diamondback-rattlesnake.htm COMMON NAME: Eastern diamondback rattlesnake, diamondback rattlesnake GENUS SPECIES: Crotalus (rattle) adamanteus (hard as steel, refers to diamonds)SIZE: Adults average 1.2 m (4 ft.), reaching lengths up to 2.4 m (8 ft.); newborn snakes measure 30-35 cm (12-14 in) WEIGHT: Average weight is 2.3 kg (5 lb.); maximum weight is 4.5 kg (10 lb.) --- http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/columnists/jeff_elder/15263514.htm Q. What are the world records for weight and length for an eastern diamondback rattlesnake? The eastern diamondback rattlesnake is the largest venomous snake in North America. More recently, snake expert G.H. Dalrymple listed one of the rattlers in his research area in Everglades National Park at 94.1 inches and 20 pounds. (You do the math on that 94.1 inches. I'd mess it up. OK, OK. It's just under 8 feet.) "That's an absolutely giant eastern diamondback," he says. Next I investigated whether there might be snakes found in Texas that are not rattlesnakes and might match your picture. I found that the three snakes of the genus Pituophis (gopher, bull, pine snake) are sometimes thought to ?imitate? rattlesnakes because of the way the hiss and posture. They are also similar in markings to rattlesnakes. However, they are not venomous. They can reach up to 9 feet. I wasn?t able to find information about their weight but I don?t believe there?s any chance that they would weight 97 pounds as claimed about the snake in your picture. PITUOPHIS (GOPHER, BULL, PINE SNAKES) ------------------------------------- http://www.desertmuseum.org/books/gopher_snake.html gopher snake (Pituophis melanoleucus) Large and heavy-bodied, the gopher snake is reported to reach 9 feet (275 cm) in length, but 4 feet (120 cm) is more common. --- http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/biology/facilities/herp/caresheetpages/gopher.html Pituophis melanoleucus, Gopher Snake Origin: Central US east of Rockies to western Indiana, southern Canada through Northeast Mexico Size: 5 ft average max size 9ft --- http://www.enature.com/fieldguides/detail.asp?recnum=AR0113 Pine Snake Pituophis melanoleucus Description 48-100" (122-254 cm). Large and powerfully built; small head. Light-colored with black or brown blotches on back and sides, or all black. Warning ------- When confronted, the Pine Snake hisses loudly, sometimes flattening its head and vibrating its tail like a rattlesnake. It may then lunge at the intruder and strike. Its bite is not venomous. --- http://www.mcmartinville.com/reptiles/trips/texas/bullsnake.htm Bullsnake (Genus: Pituophis (gopher, bull, and pine snakes) Length: can grow to more than 8 feet long. --- http://www.lihs.org/files/caresheets/sheet9.htm PINE/BULL/GOPHER SNAKE Pine Snake (Pituophis Melanoleucus) Bull Snake (Pituophis Sayi) Gopher Snake (Pituophis Catenifer) The snakes of the genus Pituophis, which consists of the pine, bull and gopher snakes, are among the largest North American colubrids. ? All three species are large bodied snakes that average six feet in length, with some reaching as much as eight feet. The markings on all three species are similar, although there is some differentiation with the background colors. Here is a collection of images to help you compare and evaluate the various snakes that might match the one in your picture. It looks like some of them might be 9 feet long but none are anywhere near 97 pounds. IMAGES OF SIMILAR SNAKES ------------------------ http://www.picsearch.com/search.cgi?q=%22western%20diamondback%22%20OR%20crotalus%20atrox&start=21 "western diamondback" OR crotalus atrox http://www.picsearch.com/search.cgi?q=%22Timber+Rattlesnake%22+%22Crotalus+horridus%22 "Timber Rattlesnake" "Crotalus horridus" http://www.picsearch.com/search.cgi?q=%22eastern+diamondback%22++%22Crotalus+adamanteus%22 "eastern diamondback" "Crotalus adamanteus" http://www.picsearch.com/search.cgi?q=%22Gopher+Snake%22++%22Pituophis+Catenifer%22 "Gopher Snake" "Pituophis Catenifer" http://www.picsearch.com/search.cgi?q=%22Pine+Snake%22+%22Pituophis+melanoleucus%22 "Pine Snake" "Pituophis melanoleucus" http://www.picsearch.com/search.cgi?q=%22Bull+Snake%22+%22Pituophis+Sayi%22 "Bull Snake" "Pituophis Sayi" http://images.google.com/images?svnum=100&hl=en&lr=&rlz=1B2GGGL_enUS177&q=Pituophis+gopher+OR+bull+OR+pine+snake&btnG=Search Pituophis gopher OR bull OR pine snake I hope the information I?ve found will help you with your discussions with your friend. All the best. ~ czh ~```
 beachbum77-ga rated this answer: `Excellent research, thanks for the info.`