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To tutuzdad - urgent (no marriage license so how can I be served divorce papers)
Category: Relationships and Society > Law Asked by: guru21-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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16 Nov 2006 21:09 PST
Expires: 16 Dec 2006 21:09 PST Question ID: 783486 |
Hello! Not too long ago, you helped answer a question in regards to whether or not I even had a marriage. There was no license acquired. The ceremony took place in Ohio. I live in Georgia. Today, my so called husband (again, no marriage license and no certificate thereof) served me with divorce papers citing the following section of the Georgia Code - 19-5-3 (The marriage is irretrievably broken.) How is this possible? I am more than glad to copy and paste the response you had supplied when you did research on this and cited various sections of the Ohio Revised Code (basically you stated Georgia had no jurisdiction on this matter as the ceremony took place in Ohio). Please advise. I have to file a response within the next few days (of course I am in the process of trying to find a suitable lawyer). |
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Re: To tutuzdad - urgent (no marriage license so how can I be served divorce papers)
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 17 Nov 2006 07:15 PST Rated: |
Dear guru21-ga; Thank you for following up on your earlier question. The short answer is that anyone can file for divorce in any state so long as he or she meets the residency requirements of the state in which the complaint is filed. States typically certify only marriages that occur within their own jurisdictions but the court of any state can terminate out-of-state marriages. In your earlier question you said that your estranged ?spouse? claimed that he intended to ?take care of it later by coming back to Georgia and registering the marriage?. The question now is, did he? If he had the marriage certified in Ohio according to Ohio law after the two of you returned to Georgia then there may indeed be a marriage certificate/license that you are not aware of. In that event you MAY actually BE married. It would be wise for you to contact the Ohio Department of Health and Vital Statistics to see if the marriage was ever certified. If there is such a certificate they can tell you and even provide a copy of it to you for a small fee. Ohio Department of Health http://www.odh.state.oh.us/vitalstatistics/vitalstats.aspx If Ohio has no such certificate then it may be presumed that the marriage was not registered in keeping with Ohio state law and is therefore questionable in it?s validity. It is unlikely that the Ohio marriage would have been certified in Georgia because that is not the statutory sound procedure. Like Ohio and most other states Georgia certifies only marriages solemnized in Georgia. Your position that there is no valid marriage to terminate may be valid, but to make certain you or your attorney should first research the matter through Ohio?s Department of Health. If you find no record from there you should then contact the Georgia Division of Public Health to make sure one was not somehow registered by the state of Georgia by mistake or by perhaps by intentional misrepresentation. Keep in mind that in Georgia marriage records after 1996 are only available from the county Probate Court where the license was issued so, because the marriage record originated in Ohio and not a county court in Georgia, Georgia DPH isn?t likely to have one, but it can?t hurt to look. Georgia Division of Public Health http://health.state.ga.us/programs/vitalrecords/marriage.asp As a last resort your attorney can file a motion for discovery to have the plaintiff show proof of the marriage. By doing this your ex will be required to produce valid documents showing the court that the two of you were married, when and where the marriage took place, and whether or not the union is valid. If he can?t then he basically has no case in my opinion and the complaint will likely be dismissed. Now, assuming there is no valid marriage (as determined by your attorney) you position may very well be that your ex cannot file for the termination of a marriage that never existed. In the event that a marriage record IS found however, your attorney may still be able challenge it?s validity based on the fact that it may not have been registered properly or in a timely manner. The success of such a challenge is unpredicatable by me, but your lawyer can probably tell you more about the chances of such a defense. Finally, in the event that a VALID marriage record is found there is nothing to prevent your ex from filing for divorce in the jurisdiction in which he legally resides (no matter what state it is). This is just the nature of reciprocal US civil law and he is well within his right to do so. In fact, there is notthing to prevent anyone from filing a lawsuit against anyone else alleging any number of ridiculous claims. In other words, you can be "served" a summons for just about any goofy allegation, but the mere "service" of a complaint is ONLY notification that a formal complaint has been filed and in NO WAY indicates that the case has any merit whatsoever. The issue of "merit" is determined by the court. I hope you find that my answer exceeds your expectations. If you have any questions about my research please post a clarification request prior to rating the answer. Otherwise I welcome your rating and your final comments and I look forward to working with you again in the near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us. Best regards; Tutuzdad-ga ? Google Answers Researcher INFORMATION SOURCES Defined above SEARCH STRATEGY SEARCH ENGINE USED: Google ://www.google.com SEARCH TERMS USED: Divorce Georgia Ohio | |
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Thank you for the guidance and the timely response. This has been very helpful indeed. Wish me luck now. Thank you again. |
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To tutuzdad - urgent (no marriage license so how can I be served divorce papers)
From: mvguy-ga on 16 Nov 2006 22:53 PST |
Anybody can file papers and/or sue anybody for almost any reason. But that doesn't mean it'll hold up in court. Unless for some strange reason you're married and don't know it (which is doubtful), this should be a simple matter for an attorney to resolve. |
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Re: To tutuzdad - urgent (no marriage license so how can I be served divorce papers)
From: nelson-ga on 17 Nov 2006 05:19 PST |
When did the supposed marriage take place? According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-law_marriage#United_States, common-law marriages were abolished in Ohio in 1991 and in Georgia in 1997. If the "marriage" took place before then, you may be married depending on the circumstances. |
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Re: To tutuzdad - urgent (no marriage license so how can I be served divorce papers)
From: nkamom-ga on 17 Nov 2006 10:47 PST |
To have a common law marriage, you need to meet the following requirements. Enter into the relationship before 1991; Have some sort of ceremony or intent to be in a marriage-type relationship; hold yourself out to the public as husband and wife. |
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Re: To tutuzdad - urgent (no marriage license so how can I be served divorce papers)
From: denco-ga on 17 Nov 2006 11:27 PST |
The common law marriage angle is moot in this case as this ceremony took place after common law marriages were abolished in Ohio and Georgia. http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=768411 Just be careful in Colorado if you check into a motel as "Mr. and Mrs." as that could be a costly one night stand. We still have common law marriage. |
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Re: To tutuzdad - urgent (no marriage license so how can I be served divorce papers)
From: guru21-ga on 17 Nov 2006 21:30 PST |
Thank you all for posting your comments. The marriage took place this year. I can not figure out how he could possibly establish validity and serve me with divorce papers. But, as mvguy-ga has pointed out, just because someone writes something and submits it to the court does not make it admissible in the court. Even if he does claim and prove the validity, the fact of no consummation (as he can not consummate -- he misrepresented and concealed his physical capabilities) would qualify this for annulment, not divorce. As a ceremonially married couple, he and I have spent barely 26 to 28 hours in total together over a span of 5 days. I am hoping the judge will take this in to account as well as how after packing up his things and leaving, he never returned my messages when I tried to find out why he left. I am just very curious to see how he can prove the validity here. Thank you again everyone. |
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Re: To tutuzdad - urgent (no marriage license so how can I be served divorce pap
From: irlandes-ga on 22 Nov 2006 21:05 PST |
Judges take nothing in account, unless it is brought to their attention by legal papers, by you or your attorney. You will need to get an attorney, assuming you can't do it yourself, which is likely, since you are asking questions on GA. And, that attorney must file papers bringing these important details to the judges attention. Judges don't go digging for the facts. We have in the US what is called the adversarial system, and you have to present your side, via your attorney. |
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Re: irlandes-ga
From: guru21-ga on 26 Nov 2006 17:17 PST |
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I am duly warned and I am much appreciative of this important fact and guidance. I always thought the LAW looks at the facts before making a decision on any pleading. It now seems based on your comment that I must prove TO THE LAW what the facts are and then yes, the law will make a decision. Thank you again. |
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