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Subject:
Internet kiosks prior to July 27, 1995
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: tdaw-ga List Price: $50.00 |
Posted:
01 May 2002 08:32 PDT
Expires: 08 May 2002 08:32 PDT Question ID: 8148 |
Is there a description published prior to July 27 1995 of an internet kiosk that consists of: A self-service computer, including: a monitor having a display screen; a microprocessor coupled to the monitor for controlling what is displayed on the screen; browser software executable on the microprocessor for accessing and displaying documents in response to user input, the graphical user interface (GUI) of the browser software comprising controls for the browser software and a document viewing area; and at least one image positioned for display on the screen so as to mask the controls for the browser software, the image thus rendering the controls inaccessible to a user of the self-service computer to resist tampering with the browser software. This is related to determining the validity of Patent 5,761,071 so a detailed and complete answer would be valued. Material already noted or linked to on http://www.kiosks.org/history/ or http://www.kiosks.org/archives.html or http://www.netshift.com/downloads/w3conf.doc is already known and is not what I am looking for. |
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Re: Internet kiosks prior to July 27, 1995
From: koz-ga on 01 May 2002 13:24 PDT |
A year ago, BountyQuest (http://www.bountyquest.com) offered USD$10,000 to anyone that could prove this exact same prior art. The prize went unclaimed. This is going to be a very hard one to answer. If you do find something, maybe you should contact BQ as well and see if you can get some extra cash from it (unless the asker is thinking the exact same thing) http://www.bountyquest.com/bounties/displayBounty.php?bountyName=1051 |
Subject:
Re: Internet kiosks prior to July 27, 1995
From: tdaw-ga on 01 May 2002 14:00 PDT |
Bountyquest have recently confirmed that there was a winner of this bounty and that the reward was awarded. But they haven't got permission of the poster to make it public - so there may be an answer out there! ( Bountyquest used the filing date of the patent in 1996 rather than the 1995 one I have used which is a clear year prefiling.) So it is probably not worth asking Bounty quest for extra cash, and the maximum I can offer on this system is $50!! There were kiosks out there in 1995 see for instance one that is referenced from the kiosks.org site ( and thus already excluded from this question. http://informatics.cpmc.columbia.edu/appldinf/kioskhlp.html What I am wondering is if there are any other examples. |
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Re: Internet kiosks prior to July 27, 1995
From: zo-ga on 03 May 2002 17:38 PDT |
I believe it must have been in 1995 I was working for a UK company named ICL (www.icl.com, now Fujitsu) and I knew of several people within the company who were employed on designing and manufacturing "kiosks." At that time I had only a hazy idea of what those actually were, however the following year 1996 (I think it was) I bought an item at a store in Reading, UK, and used one of their ICL kiosks to select and pay for my purchase. The store chain was Argos (www.argos.co.uk) So I think ICL must have started this kiosk project prior to 27 July 1995. The kiosk I used was shaped kind of like an arcade video game and matches your description, except that its function was purely to allow people to buy stuff, not to provide internet access. A credit card reader was also fitted. I occasionally still shop at Argos but do not seem to see these kiosks any more so I don't know what the story was with them. |
Subject:
Re: Internet kiosks prior to July 27, 1995
From: lakeland-ga on 04 May 2002 15:33 PDT |
Hi, IANAL so this may or may not fit your description. At least, the key thing from your description seems to be a picture over the browser controls which wasn't what was used here. The first Kiosk I was involved with was in early 1994. It was set up for the Wellington City Council in New Zealand by smrf (Michael Robionson), so if it sounds like it might match I'm sure you could use Google to find him. Anyway, the machine was running on intel hardware (486 IIRC) with NetBSD as the operating system and it had NCSA Mosaic as the browser. Using xrdb, Mosaic was set to display with the controls above the top of the screen. To prevent the user accessing the controls, the window manager used (twm?) was set to have no functions for moving the window. So, probably different to what you're looking for :-) |
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