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Subject: Fabry-perot interferometer
Category: Science > Physics
Asked by: monga-ga
List Price: $100.00
Posted: 21 Oct 2002 06:09 PDT
Expires: 31 Oct 2002 15:53 PST
Question ID: 85895
A fabry-Perot Interferometer has mirrors of reflectance, R, equal to
0.95 and a spacing of 1.0mm.  The mirrors are separated by air.  It is
hoped that the interferometer can be used to study the fine structure
of a spectrum, the components of which have wavelengths of 600.0nm and
600.1nm.  Some of the components of this spectrum have a wavelength
difference of only 0.002nm.

       (a)Calculate whether the interferometer will be able to
distinguish between the components having a wavelength difference of
0.002nm.

       (b)Calculate whether there will be overlap between the various
orders of the spectra fromed by the interferometer.

   please, I need the answer soon.

Request for Question Clarification by dannidin-ga on 21 Oct 2002 07:53 PDT
monga-ga,

I think I have an answer for you for (a): at a wavelength of 600 nm,
the resolvance of the interferometer, or possible wavelength
difference that the interferometer can detect, will be about 0.0293
nm, higher than the 0.002 nm that you request, in other words the
short answer to your question is: "no".
Is this what you meant in your question? The reason I am not sure is
that you did not specify the 600 nm in the actual question but only as
an example. Note that the resolvance depends on the wavelength where
you want to do the resolving, so for a different wavelength you would
get a different answer. If this is what you meant, I will try to
answer part (b) and post my calculation for (a) with the relevant
links and references.

As for part (b) of your question, I don't understand exactly what you
are asking for. Do you still mean the example of 600.0 and 600.1 nm?
Please clarify and I will try to answer. Also if you indicate your
level of expertise in these matters, it would help me to write a
clearer answer.

Regards,
dannidin

Clarification of Question by monga-ga on 22 Oct 2002 19:56 PDT
Hi, 
for part (a), the 600 and 600.1 are the actual wavelenghts of the
components. it is not an example. Everything in the first paragraph is
relevant to part (a) and (B) i.e. 600.0nm and 600.1nm are wavelenght
for part (a) and (b) and so on...So the answer to your question in
part (B) yes

My level of expertise is not great, I'm a first year physic student.

I hoped that cleared every up, if not send another note.  

Thanks
monga

Clarification of Question by monga-ga on 24 Oct 2002 23:49 PDT
Hi dannidin

Thanks for trying

Can i get back to you on 28/10/02, because i probably have to ask my
lecturer what question b means, because you've totally confuse me.

These question are on last years exam paper, and my lecturer wont give
me the answer to study for it.

in part b i did a spelling mistake it should be "formed", just thought
i tell ya.

So let me see if you are on the right track, and i will get back to
you on the 28/10/02.

Thanks
monga

Clarification of Question by monga-ga on 27 Oct 2002 20:34 PST
yo dinnidan

in part b, it means calculate if there is a overlap in the various
orders of the spectrum formed be the interferometer.  In other words,
i think calculate the angle of refraction.

and the various orders are given by n

i hoped this is helpful

thanks monga

Request for Question Clarification by rbnn-ga on 29 Oct 2002 10:00 PST
Is the comment sufficient answer here? Do you need more information?

Clarification of Question by monga-ga on 29 Oct 2002 17:17 PST
hi, Rbnn-ga

the answer to part a is sufficient

but part b is not answered yet

i need this by 31/10/02

if you cannot do it by then, then dont worry about it

thanks monga
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Subject: Re: Fabry-perot interferometer
From: dannidin-ga on 23 Oct 2002 02:44 PDT
 
Hi Monga,

I am still not 100% sure about part (b), since it sounds pretty much
identical to what you're asking in (a) (see below). So I've decided to
post my answer as a comment, if you are satisfied tell me and I will
re-post this as an answer, or if you still want more for part (b) tell
me more precisely what you mean and I'll see what I can do.

I've used formulas and explanations for the Fabry-Perot Interferometer
which appear in the site

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/phyopt/fabry.html

This site has very nice pictures and explanations and I recommend that
you take a look at it if you're interested.

You have given me the following data: The reflectance r of the mirrors
is 0.95; The separation between the mirrors is d=0.1 mm. Another
number that we will need in order to calculate the separation between
wavelengths is m, the so-called order of interference. I must confess
I did not understand very well what it is (I am a mathematician with a
strong physics background, but interferometers are not my specialty),
but it is given approximately by the expression 2*d/lambda, provided
that the angle of the incident light is small (which I assume is
satisfied if the interferometer is used correctly). lambda is the
wavelength, in our case 600nm.

So we have:   r = 0.95;    d = 0.1 mm;    lambda = 600 nm;

  m = 2d/lambda = 2 * 0.1*10^(-3) m / (600*10^(-9) m) = 333.33

Finally, the possible change in wavelength that the intereferometer
can detect is given by

delta(lambda) = lambda * (1-r) / (m * pi * sqrt(r)) =

              = 600 nm * 0.05 / (333.33 * 3.14159 * sqrt(0.95)) =
0.02939 nm

(This is what I mistakenly called the "resolvance" in my earlier
request for clarification. In fact the resolvance is defined as the
ratio
lambda/delta(lambda))

In other words, at a wavelength of 600.0 nm, the interferometer can
separate two adjacent wavelengths provided that the difference in
their wavelengths is at least 0.029 nm. In your example 600.0 nm and
600.1 nm have a difference of 0.1 nm, which is greater than this
number, so the interferometer WILL in fact be able to separate them.
On the other hand, you write

"Some of the components of this spectrum have a wavelength difference
of only 0.002nm"

"(a)Calculate whether the interferometer will be able to
distinguish between the components having a wavelength difference of
0.002nm."

So for this question the answer is "No", since 0.002 nm is clearly
lower than the threshold of 0.029 nm.

Now for part (b): 

"(b)Calculate whether there will be overlap between the various
orders of the spectra fromed by the interferometer."

If I understand this correctly - and this is by no means certain -
this is the same as saying "Will there be overlap between the two
adjacent wavelengths?" (in this example 600.0 and 600.1 nm, although
you refer also to a wavelength difference of 0.002 nm)
The thing I am not sure about is whether this question is identical to
the question "Can the interferometer distinguish these two
wavelengths?"
Why am I not sure? Certainly, if the interferometer does NOT
distinguish between the two wavelengths, this means that there is
overlap. But, is it possible that two wavelengths may have some small
overlap but are still clearly distinguishable? I would tend to say
"no", in which case the answer to part (b), for the specific example
of 600.0 and 600.1 nm, is that there will be no overlap, since the gap
that we calculated, of 0.02 nm, is smaller than the difference of 0.1
nm. However, this is where my understanding of interferometers comes
to an end. Perhaps someone will care to comment?

I hope this is the answer you were looking for,
dannidin
Subject: Re: Fabry-perot interferometer
From: dannidin-ga on 25 Oct 2002 07:57 PDT
 
Sure thing monga, I'll still be here... good luck,
dannidin
Subject: Re: Fabry-perot interferometer
From: dannidin-ga on 29 Oct 2002 02:17 PST
 
hi monga,

part b of your question exceeds my knowledge of optics, so I don't
think I can give you an answer for that one, sorry. Good luck to you
in your search for an answer...

dannidin

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