I am interested in applying to graduate schools in the Social Work
program (masters not PhD).  For the following schools, I am looking
for admissions deadline (for fall 2003), acceptance rate, if GRE's are
required, and if so what the GRE median scores are for those admitted,
annual tuition, and number of students currently in the program.  I
would like the schools to be put in order of difficulty of admissions
(i.e. easy - hard, least to most competitive).  The schools are as
follows: Simmons College, Smith College, Brandeis U., Tufts U.,
Delaware State U, University of Pennsylvania, Boston College, Boston
University, SUNY Stony Brook.

Hello Julie99!!

Thanks for using us to help you make your grad school decision.  I
know what a bewildering process this can be, as I just went through
the same ordeal, so it is my pleasure to be able to help someone else
do some of the research grunt work to make it easier for you.

I thought that it would be the best for me just to go through the
schools one by one and give you the stats that you requested.
First, I attempted to find a definitive ranking of graduate schools of
social work, but have found, both through my own experience that this
is becoming sort of obsolete, except for med and law schools.  I think
that most schools have realized that perfect for one student may be
merely mediocre for another.

Drumroll, please----here are your schools!!

1)  Simmons College:
students currently enrolled:  280
admission deadline: There are two dates for filing applications. The
first, for early acceptance, is December 15. The second, for general
admission, is February 15.
GRE required?  No
Tuition: 663.00/credit hour
(http://www.simmons.edu/financial_aid/costs.html)
Graduate Room/board: 5,298/semester 
(http://www.simmons.edu/financial_aid/costs.html)
*Note:  You may apply online at: http://www.simmons.edu/apply.html—the
35.00 application fee is waived!

2)  Smith College:
students currently enrolled: I will email you with this information
tomorrow
Admission deadline:  February 15, though early application is STRONGLY
encouraged as Smith will engage in an early review if all application
materials are received by Jan. 5
(http://www.smith.edu/ssw/faqs.html#list2)
GRE required? No, but may be submitted if desired
(http://www.smith.edu/ssw/faqs.html#list2)
Tuition: 13,328.00 for Jume-May academic year
(http://www.smith.edu/ssw/admission.htm#fees)
Room/board: 2,306.00/single room
(http://www.smith.edu/ssw/admission.htm#fees)

3)  Brandeis University—The Heller School for Social Policy, which
offers an MBA (I’m sure you knew that already, but I just noticed that
it was different than the rest of the schools that you inquired about)
Students currently enrolled:  49
(http://heller.brandeis.edu/mbamm_a.asp)
Admission Deadline: M.B.A. & M.M. - February 15, 2003 for full-time
and part-time study beginning in June 2003
For September 2003, there is no full time study available, but the
deadline is June 1, 2003
GRE required? GRE or GMAT may be taken 
(http://heller.brandeis.edu/admissions_a_a.asp)
Average GRE: 1672 (http://heller.brandeis.edu/mbamm_a.asp)
Tuition: Full-time: $7,584.75 per semester (four-semester, 15-month
program)
Part-time: $1,596 per course
(http://heller.brandeis.edu/financialaid_b.asp)
**no information on a typical room/board charge, but I will email you
with that information if necessary!

4)  Tufts University:  no information on masters programs in social
work/social policy could be located!

5)Delaware State University:  are currently revamping their website,
and have a bare-bones version in lieu of the more detailed, normal
version.
 Students currently enrolled:
Admission deadline: May 15th for Advanced Standing and June 15th for
other admissions. (http://www.dsc.edu/gradstudies/socwork/gradprogsocwork.html)
GRE required:  Yes, but the school maintains no record of mean GRE
scores
Tuition: Tuition: In-State Student (per credit hour) $156.00
Out-of-State student (per credit hour) $365.00
(http://www.dsc.edu/gradstudies/registration.html)

6)  U. of Pennsylavania:
Students currently enrolled:
Admission deadline: Applications for the master's program are accepted
between September 15 and March 31 and February 1 for the doctoral
programs. Review of financial aid applications begins on March 1.
(http://www.ssw.upenn.edu/home/programs/apply.html)
GRE required? No
Tuition: Full-time $23,338 plus student FEES of $1,612; part-time
$3,114 per course credit.
(http://www.graduateguide.com/main/detail.asp?college_id=985)

7)  Boston College: 
Students currently enrolled: 450
(http://www.petersons.com/GradChannel/code/IDD.asp?orderLineNum=446818-1&inunId=45333&typeVC=ProgramVC&sponsor=1&majunit=45333)
Admission Deadline: Standard Full and Part Time: March 1
(http://www.bc.edu/schools/gssw/admission/masters/appproc/)
GRE required?  No
Tuition: Tuition in 2002-03 is $22,340 for full-time M.S.W. students,
$608 per credit hour for part-time M.S.W. students
(http://www.petersons.com/GradChannel/code/IDD.asp?orderLineNum=446818-1&inunId=45333&typeVC=ProgramVC&sponsor=1&majunit=45333)
Cost of Living: The cost of living for a single independent student is
approximately $12,985, with approximately $1800 added for each
dependent. After all, it IS Boston!

8)  Boston University:
Students enrolled: 500  
(http://www.petersons.com/GradChannel/code/IDD.asp?orderLineNum=447523-1&inunId=22146&typeVC=ProgramVC&sponsor=1&majunit=22146)
Admission Deadline:  March 1 
GRE required? Miller Analogies Test or GRE is reviewed by committee 
(http://www.bu.edu/ssw/admissions.html)
Tuition: Tuition in 2002-03 is $19,890 for full-time students, $622
per credit hour for part-time students in Boston, and $440 per credit
hour for part-time students in the off-campus, weekend programs.
(http://www.petersons.com/GradChannel/code/IDD.asp?orderLineNum=447523-1&inunId=22146&typeVC=ProgramVC&sponsor=1&majunit=22146)
Cost of Living:  same as BC

9)  SUNY-Stony Brook:
Students enrolled:  313
(http://www.petersons.com/GradChannel/code/IDD.asp?orderLineNum=444383-1&inunId=27989&typeVC=ProgramVC&sponsor=1&majunit=27981)
Admission Deadline:  March 1
GRE required? No
Tuition: For state residents, tuition is $5100 a year for full-time
students or $213 per credit hour part-time. It is $8416 per year
full-time or $351 per credit hour part-time for nonresidents. Fees are
$455 per year full-time or $22.35 per semester (minimum) part-time.

Here is a fantastic resource for you--it is a list of ALL accredited
grad degree programs and information on those!

Thanks for using us to help you make your grad school decision.  I
know what a bewildering process this can be, as I just went through
the same ordeal, so it is my pleasure to be able to help someone else
do some of the research grunt work to make it easier for you.

I thought that it would be the best for me just to go through the
schools one by one and give you the stats that you requested.
First, I attempted to find a definitive ranking of graduate schools of
social work, but have found, both through my own experience that this
is becoming sort of obsolete, except for med and law schools.  I think
that most schools have realized that perfect for one student may be
merely mediocre for another.

Drumroll, please----here are your schools!!

1)  Simmons College:
students currently enrolled:  280
admission deadline: There are two dates for filing applications. The
first, for early acceptance, is December 15. The second, for general
admission, is February 15.
GRE required?  No
Tuition: 663.00/credit hour
(http://www.simmons.edu/financial_aid/costs.html)
Graduate Room/board: 5,298/semester 
(http://www.simmons.edu/financial_aid/costs.html)
*Note:  You may apply online at: http://www.simmons.edu/apply.html—the
35.00 application fee is waived!

2)  Smith College:
students currently enrolled: I will email you with this information
tomorrow
Admission deadline:  February 15, though early application is STRONGLY
encouraged as Smith will engage in an early review if all application
materials are received by Jan. 5
(http://www.smith.edu/ssw/faqs.html#list2)
GRE required? No, but may be submitted if desired
(http://www.smith.edu/ssw/faqs.html#list2)
Tuition: 13,328.00 for Jume-May academic year
(http://www.smith.edu/ssw/admission.htm#fees)
Room/board: 2,306.00/single room
(http://www.smith.edu/ssw/admission.htm#fees)

3)  Brandeis University—The Heller School for Social Policy, which
offers an MBA (I’m sure you knew that already, but I just noticed that
it was different than the rest of the schools that you inquired about)
Students currently enrolled:  49
(http://heller.brandeis.edu/mbamm_a.asp)
Admission Deadline: M.B.A. & M.M. - February 15, 2003 for full-time
and part-time study beginning in June 2003
For September 2003, there is no full time study available, but the
deadline is June 1, 2003
GRE required? GRE or GMAT may be taken 
(http://heller.brandeis.edu/admissions_a_a.asp)
Average GRE: 1672 (http://heller.brandeis.edu/mbamm_a.asp)
Tuition: Full-time: $7,584.75 per semester (four-semester, 15-month
program)
Part-time: $1,596 per course
(http://heller.brandeis.edu/financialaid_b.asp)
**no information on a typical room/board charge, but I will email you
with that information if necessary!

4)  Tufts University:  no information on masters programs in social
work/social policy could be located!

5)Delaware State University:  are currently revamping their website,
and have a bare-bones version in lieu of the more detailed, normal
version.
 Students currently enrolled:
Admission deadline: May 15th for Advanced Standing and June 15th for
other admissions. (http://www.dsc.edu/gradstudies/socwork/gradprogsocwork.html)
GRE required:  Yes, but the school maintains no record of mean GRE
scores
Tuition: Tuition: In-State Student (per credit hour) $156.00
Out-of-State student (per credit hour) $365.00
(http://www.dsc.edu/gradstudies/registration.html)

6)  U. of Pennsylavania:
Students currently enrolled:
Admission deadline: Applications for the master's program are accepted
between September 15 and March 31 and February 1 for the doctoral
programs. Review of financial aid applications begins on March 1.
(http://www.ssw.upenn.edu/home/programs/apply.html)
GRE required? No
Tuition: Full-time $23,338 plus student FEES of $1,612; part-time
$3,114 per course credit.
(http://www.graduateguide.com/main/detail.asp?college_id=985)

7)  Boston College: 
Students currently enrolled: 450
(http://www.petersons.com/GradChannel/code/IDD.asp?orderLineNum=446818-1&inunId=45333&typeVC=ProgramVC&sponsor=1&majunit=45333)
Admission Deadline: Standard Full and Part Time: March 1
(http://www.bc.edu/schools/gssw/admission/masters/appproc/)
GRE required?  No
Tuition: Tuition in 2002-03 is $22,340 for full-time M.S.W. students,
$608 per credit hour for part-time M.S.W. students
(http://www.petersons.com/GradChannel/code/IDD.asp?orderLineNum=446818-1&inunId=45333&typeVC=ProgramVC&sponsor=1&majunit=45333)
Cost of Living: The cost of living for a single independent student is
approximately $12,985, with approximately $1800 added for each
dependent. After all, it IS Boston!

8)  Boston University:
Students enrolled: 500  
(http://www.petersons.com/GradChannel/code/IDD.asp?orderLineNum=447523-1&inunId=22146&typeVC=ProgramVC&sponsor=1&majunit=22146)
Admission Deadline:  March 1 
GRE required? Miller Analogies Test or GRE is reviewed by committee 
(http://www.bu.edu/ssw/admissions.html)
Tuition: Tuition in 2002-03 is $19,890 for full-time students, $622
per credit hour for part-time students in Boston, and $440 per credit
hour for part-time students in the off-campus, weekend programs.
Cost of Living:  same as BC

9)  SUNY-Stony Brook:
Students enrolled:  313
(http://www.petersons.com/GradChannel/code/IDD.asp?orderLineNum=444383-1&inunId=27989&typeVC=ProgramVC&sponsor=1&majunit=27981)
Admission Deadline:  March 1
GRE required? No
Tuition: For state residents, tuition is $5100 a year for full-time
students or $213 per credit hour part-time. It is $8416 per year
full-time or $351 per credit hour part-time for nonresidents. Fees are
$455 per year full-time or $22.35 per semester (minimum) part-time.


Follow this link to a GREAT site that provides a list, detailed
description, and link to EVERY grad school program in Social Work:
http://www.petersons.com/GradChannel/code/IDD.asp?orderLineNum=447523-1&inunId=22146&typeVC=ProgramVC&sponsor=1&majunit=22146)
I Love Love Love this site and use it everyday.  I think that it is
invaluable and reasonably unbaised.


My search strategy here was pretty self-explanatory, as I simply went
to the websites for the schools and pulled the information.  For those
pieces of info that I could not locate on the site, I used:
http://www.gradschoolguide.com
http://www.petersons.com/gradchannel

I truly hope that I have made your grad school decision process a bit
easier.  For the little bits of information that I could not provide
you with, please feel free to contact me: Bep026@aol.com with your
email information so that I may ask the schools to provide me with the
necessary information during business hours, rather than at 2:30 in
the morning!

Thank you again!  
We look forward to helping you again soon!
Ask again any time!

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Request for Answer Clarification by julie99-ga on 24 Oct 2002 09:28 PDT

Hi, thank you for your work on this answer, the heart of what I wanted
to know lied in the difference of level of difficulty each school was
to get into.  Which is why I requested acceptance rates.  Most
colleges will list out of X amount of students Y number were admitted,
or a percentage rate of acceptance.  Could you please add that to the
answer?  Thank you very much.

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Clarification of Answer by aliciadenney-ga on 24 Oct 2002 11:29 PDT

Good deal! Here is a list of each school's acceptance rates (as found
on http://www.princetonreview.com).
In addition, I realized when I went to sleep last night that it would
be good for you to have a list of each school's website, for easy
linking purposes.

1) Simmons Graduate School of Social Work: www.simmons.edu/gssw/ 
Acceptance rate:  84%
Of that, who attends:  49%

2)Smith College: http://www.smith.edu/ssw/
Acceptance: 64%
Who attends: 47%

3)Brandeis:  Heller School for Social Policy Mgmt: 
http://www.heller.brandeis.edu
Acceptance:58%
Who attends: 45%

4)Tufts: no record of a social work grad program

5)  Delaware State University:  site under construction
Accepted: 56%
Attend: 75%

6) U. of Pennsylvania:  http://www.ssw.upenn.edu
Accepted: 74%
Attend: 46%

7)Boston College:  http://www.bc.edu/schools/gssw/ 
Accepted:44%
Attends: 50%

8)Boston University: http://www.bu.edu/ssw/ 
Does NOT publish these stats

9) SUNY-Stony Brook: http://www.uhmc.sunysb.edu/socwelf/
Do not report these stats, but my feeling is that if you are not
in-state, then don't bother!


**Here is another great site for you, which lists all graduate social
work programs in the Northeast:
http://www.gradschools.com/listings/northeast/social_work_ne.html

I hope that this is a good amount of information for you to chew on
for a while.

Thank you so much for using Google Answers!

Thank you for a complete answer.  It is very helpful to me!  You did a
great job researching and I appreciated you following up with my
clarification so quickly.  Nice job :)

Okay....I'm not quite sure why it posted it twice, but just ignore the
second half of this answer!
Thank you again,
Ali

Wow, I just breezed right over that stat that you wanted.  I am
terribly sorry, and am on that RIGHT now.

Thanks so much for your patience, and sorry for the confusion!
ali