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Subject: Books on Zope CMF
Category: Computers > Programming
Asked by: mattyoungrev2-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 27 Oct 2002 23:11 PST
Expires: 26 Nov 2002 23:11 PST
Question ID: 90798
I'm very interested in using Zope--an open source application
server--as a content management tool.  It has an extension known as
CMF--the Content Management Framework--which tailors it to this
purpose.  The only problem is, very little documentation is currently
available for CMF.

The question is:  what books, online or in print, IN ENGLISH, cover
the CMF for at least one chapter?  I'd like books that are current or
will soon be released.  They should refer to a recent version of the
CMF, preferably 1.3 or later.

This is my first time using Answers so wow me!

Thanks

Matt
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Subject: Re: Books on Zope CMF
Answered By: clouseau-ga on 28 Oct 2002 00:39 PST
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Hello mattyoungrev2,

And thanks for your question, although this is not exactly the type of
question that I would suspect easily lends itself to a "wow" answer.
But perhaps we can find what you are looking for.

Whenever I am looking for technical or programming books, I first turn
to O'Reilly at www.oreilly.com. Searching CMF, I found 11 hits in
their discussion. I then turned to their online book store and found
the following:

http://safari.oreilly.com/JVXSL.asp?x=1&mode=section&sortKey=rank&sortOrder=desc&view=&xmlid=0-672-32133-5&open=false&srchText=cmf&code=&h=&m=&l=1&catid=&s=1&b=1&f=1&t=1&c=1&u=1&page=0

Zope Web Application Construction Kit			
By Martina Brockmann, Katrin Kirchner, Sebastian Lühnsdorf, Mark Pratt
			
Publisher	: Sams Publishing		
Pub Date	: October 16, 2001		
ISBN	: 0-672-32133-5		
Pages	: 576		


Zope is one of the leading open-source Web application servers and
content management systems. Designed specifically to publish dynamic
content, it is a Web-based publishing system built around a 100%
object framework for rapidly deploying enterprise-class content
management solutions.

Zope Web Application Construction Kit provides Web developers with
both the software and the guidance needed to create content-rich,
dynamic Web applications using Zope.

Written by developers at beehive GmbH, one of the world's leading Zope
consulting firms, this book is a practical, straightforward guide that
clearly shows how to create everything from Web-based polls and
surveys to fully developed membership-based portal systems.

The table of contents here shows:

Part II. 
BUILDING A PORTAL AND ADDING SERVICES 

Chapter 5. 
THE CONTENT MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK (CMF) 

What Can the CMF Do for You? 
Installation 
Achievers International-ZWACK Use Case 
Working with the CMF 
Customizing the Portal's Design and Layout 
The CMF Types 
Future of CMF 
Summary

This was the most relevant hit at O'Reilly.

Searching further for Zope CMF book, I found the following:

http://cmf.zope.org/

"CMF Dogbowl

This 'cmf.zope.org' site is the central information point for
developers *of* the CMF and developers *for* the CMF. Since this site
uses recent versions of the CMF, it is called the *CMF Dogbowl*; the
term derives from the Mozilla project, where developers can "eat their
own dogfood" (i.e., do their own surfing, mail, etc. with Mozilla).
The site is also intended to be used as a "fishbowl" site for the CMF;
this term refers to Zope Corporation's committment to develop Zope "in
the fishbowl", with all significant product development visible and
accessible to interested members of the Zope community. "

You may find useful information here.

You will find a mailing list as well as their archives on Zope/CMF
here:

http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf

and a list of multiple mailing lists from Zope.org here
http://www.zope.org/Resources/MailingLists including:


Zope-Announce 
For everyone in the Zope community, this list carries announcements
about significant

Zope events - software releases, public news coverage, etc. 

Zope 
The general list for Zope users - operation of and content management
with Zope, including basic dtml programming and so forth.

Zope-Dev 
A separate list for Zope developers, focusing on Zope's innards and
continuing evolution.

Zope-DB 
This list will cover Zope's relationship with various relational
databases (e.g. Oracle, SQL Server, PostgreSQL, MySQL, etc.) All
questions regarding Zope and databases are fair game on this list.

ZDP 
A list for the Zope Documentation Project (ZDP), a volunteer effort
(RAH RAH!) to improve the documentation and other information
resources, at least initially a FAQ and howto's, for the Zope
community. Visit the ZDP site to see the ongoing work.

Zope-Checkins 
A mailing list reporting the checkin messages of the core Zope
developers as checkins are committed. This is corresponds to the
public CVS distribution. This list is not for discussion - use
zope-dev instead


And many more.

http://www.cmswatch.com/Features/ProductWatch/FeaturedProduct/?feature_id=61
has a review as follows:

Zope Content Management Framework (Part 1)
by Adam Fields, Managing Partner, Surgam, Inc.
2002-02-14 


This review covers the Zope CMF-1.2 release running on Zope 2.4.3 for
Linux with the Mandrake 8.1 distribution. Part 1 is an introduction to
Zope, the open-source application server; Part 2 will focus more on
the CMF and other Zope "products" for content management.

Part two can be found here:
http://www.cmswatch.com/Features/ProductWatch/FeaturedProduct/?feature_id=64

Yahoo has a discusion group on Zope. You can sign up free and receive
emails or daily digests here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/

You will also find forums on Zope, including a CMF discussion at
http://www.zope-forum.org/forum/index.php .

The Zope Developer's Guide (Zope 2.4 edition) by Michel Pelletier,
Amos Latteier, and Chris McDonough is available online or downloadable
as a pdf or html at http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/index_html

A quick search at Zope Labs, http://www.zopelabs.com/ for CMF brought
up 26 recipes using CMF in their cookbook.

Searching My Zope.org at http://www.my-zope.org for CMF shows 44
matches of discussions and how-to's:
http://www.my-zope.org/mz/exp/r?srch=cmf&skop=all

And FreeZope.org (http://www.freezope.org/) notes:

Welcome at FreeZope.org
Your personal Zope Environment! 
Here at FreeZope.org you can build your own Zope setup, create a
highly dynamic website, or just play around and see what Zope can do
for you.

When you register, you not only get a Zope setup but a subdomain too!
So when you register as zopegeek at FreeZope.org, your site can be
reached at http://zopegeek.freezope.org.

We've installed a number of products for you, which you are free to
use as you see fit. A list of the products, together with a
description can be found on the main FreeZope.org site, under
information.

An overview of all freezope.org sites can be found here 

And check our forum when you are stuck and need help. There's probably
someone there who can help you with your problem.

Also, please check our FAQ before requesting support if you run into
problems or have generic questions.

Accounts are free, apply for one here. But do so after you have read
our rules...

This seems like a very good resource for you.

Search strategies:

Zope CMF book
using Zope +cmf

Using the above strategies produced many thousands of hits. I selected
those above a some of the most interesting and seemingly most likely
to provide current information and the answers you desire. I hope this
gives you a great start to learning more about Zope and CMF.

If anything above is unclear, please do ask for clarification.

Regards,

-=clouseau=-

Request for Answer Clarification by mattyoungrev2-ga on 28 Oct 2002 09:30 PST
That's a good start and a quick answer.  The thing is, I think I've
seen more books--maybe forthcoming books--that cover CMF, but I can't
find them anymore.  Do you have any info on other books, maybe future
books?

Thanks

Matt

Clarification of Answer by clouseau-ga on 28 Oct 2002 09:37 PST
Hi Matt,

I didn't come across any forthcoming books in my search last night,
but let me see if I can find anything more this morning.

-=clouseau=-

Clarification of Answer by clouseau-ga on 28 Oct 2002 10:36 PST
Hello again Matt,

I searched once more, this time trying to be very specific about new
titles, forthcoming, yet unreleased, etc. pertaining to CMF. MY
initial hits all were centered around early to mid 2001 and talked
about the following books already in print:

http://www.zope.org/Members/beehive/ZWACKSamChap.html

The Zope Web Application Construction Kit published by SAMS Publishing
is a book written for Zope developers.

You may have already read the draft version of Chapter 5 (covers the
CMF) published several months ago on cmf.zope.org but now you can
download a new (over 80 page) sample chapter as it will appear in the
book.

Visit this URL: 
http://www.samspublishing.com/detail_sams.cfm?item=0672321335 
to download the Sample Chapter. 

This lead me to a few other titles I did not uncover last night:

The Zope Book
by Amos Latteier, Michel Pelletier

Product Details

Paperback: 384 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.81 x 9.07 x 7.01 
Publisher: New Riders Publishing; ISBN: 0735711372; 1st edition (July
17, 2001)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0735711372/ref=pd_sbs_b_1/103-9196592-2204608?v=glance

Zope Bible
by Michael Bernstein, Scott Robertson

Product Details

Paperback: 613 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 1.40 x 9.16 x 7.38 
Publisher: John Wiley & Sons; ISBN: 0764548573; Bk&Cd-Rom edition
(April 2002)

Could this be one you recall as recent?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764548573/ref=pd_sbs_b_2/103-9196592-2204608?v=glance

Zope: Web Application Development and Content Management
by Steve Spicklemire (Editor), Kevin Friedly, Jerry Spicklemire, Kim
Brand

Product Details

Paperback: 480 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 1.00 x 9.01 x 7.07 
Publisher: New Riders Publishing; ISBN: 0735711100; 1st edition
(December 12, 2001)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0735711100/ref=pd_sbs_b_3/103-9196592-2204608?v=glance

Zope Developer's Handbook
by John D. Rowell

Product Details

Paperback: 600 pages 
Publisher: Sams; ISBN: 0672322935; 1st edition (December 13, 2002) 

!!!!! This book is due to be published in December!!!!! Perhaps this
is the one you recall.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0672322935/ref=pd_sbs_b_4/103-9196592-2204608?v=glance

From the Back Cover

Zope Developer's Handbook is a thorough, step-by-step alternative to
the scattered online documentation, including code and ready to use
examples. This interactive approach complements the use of the tool
itself, allowing the reader to quickly create new applications.

The book delves quickly into areas that present the biggest challenges
to Zope developers, including code reuse and integration with other
tools, with emphasis on rapid application development (RAD) techniques
and database interfacing, which are critical for a successful dynamic
content site.

I don't believe I mentioned this book previously,
http://www.nostarch.com/?zope The Book of Zope, published Nov 2001:

Everything from ZClasses and debugging to programming Zope with Python

Zope, the leading Open Source Web application server, helps teams of
developers create and manage dynamic, Web-based business applications
like Intranets and portals. Zope makes it easy to add features such as
site search, news, personalization, and e-commerce. The Book of Zope
is a comprehensive introduction to Zope, covering installation; DTML
programming; concepts such as users, roles, and permissions; ZClasses;
ZCatalog; databases; programming Zope with Python; debugging; and the
use of external data sources. Zope runs on Windows and almost all
Unix-based platforms, and includes its own Web server, transactional
object-oriented database, search engine, Web page templating system,
Web development and management tool, and comprehensive extension
support.


I do have email in to O'Reilly inquiring about upcoming books on Zope
and will post if they reply positively.


And lastly, I found an online book at a German site (in English) at
http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope

The author mentions:

1 Book: Building dynamic WebSites with Zope

This section is devoted to what is already available of my Zope book
Building dynamic WebSites with Zope -- Concepts, Components,
Programming. These are 3 chapters of about 8. The available chapters,
too, are likely to change considerably before final publication,
because Zope is a fast developing system: what is true today may no
longer hold tomorrow. The chapters currently describe Zope 2.3 with
some additions for Zope 2.4. I would say, they are in a beta, i.e.
already quite usable state.

Chapter 1: Introduction 
Chapter 2: The project 
Chapter 3: Basic concepts 

I hope the above information, particularly on the book upcoming this
December, is helpful for you.

Strategy:

forthcoming OR unreleased OR new +cmf OR zope +book OR text OR study

Regards,

-=clouseau=-

Clarification of Answer by clouseau-ga on 28 Oct 2002 10:45 PST
Hi Matt,

Just heard from O'Reilly:

Hello,

Unfortunately, we had three titles scheduled on Zope that have all
been cancelled.  I am sorry I could not be more helpful.

Thank you and have a pleasant day.

Perhaps you may have heard their announcement on new titles before
they were cancelled?

-=clouseau=-
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