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Subject: Piece of music in 1971 "Jane Eyre" movie
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Movies and Film
Asked by: restless34-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 28 Oct 2002 11:47 PST
Expires: 27 Nov 2002 11:47 PST
Question ID: 91231
In the 1971 version of the movie "Jane Eyre," in the scene where Jane
(Susannah York) and Mr. Rochester (George C. Scott) are first getting
acquainted in his drawing room, he asks her if she plays (the piano).
Jane replies, "A little."  He asks her to go to the piano and play
something.  She does, and Rochester stops her after a few moments,
saying a bit sardonically, "You do indeed play 'a little.'"  The
soundrack CD by John Williams does not contain that piano solo, which
sounds to me like a legitimate classical piece.  The DVD version of
the movie cuts off the production credits at the end so that was a
dead end.  (I have not checked the VHS version of the movie to see if full
credits are included there.)  I recall once eyeing the credits closely
during a T.V. airing of the movie to see what the piece was, and I
could swear they gave it.  What is that solo piano piece?  I'd love
the sheet music so I can play it on my own piano.  Thanks.
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Subject: Re: Piece of music in 1971 "Jane Eyre" movie
Answered By: ericynot-ga on 28 Oct 2002 23:52 PST
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Hi restless 34,

You've asked one of those questions that makes doing Google research
the interesting experience it is. In the course of working on this
answer, I learned quite a lot about one of the best, most prolific
composers of this era.

John Williams, as most know, composed the music to Star Wars,
Schindler's List and many other well-known movies, many directed by
Steven Spielberg. As a matter of fact, it turns out Williams composed
the scores for all of Spielberg's movies except "The Color Purple",
going back to "The Sugarland Express", Spielberg's first feature film.
John Towner Williams, it turns out, also plays piano, clarinet, and
trumpet, and began playing at age seven. There is a good biographical
sketch here: http://nfo.net/.CAL/tw10.html
And, while most people know Williams composed the scores for George
Lucas' Star Wars movies, few realize that the man has received 41
Academy Award nominations and won that award five times, beginning in
1972 with his adaptation of Fiddler on the Roof.
http://www.shef.ac.uk/~cm1jwb/williams.htm
Also, few know that he was raised in the Hollywood film music
business, with a father who was a jazz drummer, and worked on a number
of early television shows. John Williams himself, after training
including a stint at Juilliard School of Music, was associated early
in his career with film composition greats Bernard Herrmann, Elmer
Bernstein, Jerry Goldsmith, and Henri Mancini, among others. He also
worked on many 1950's and 60's television shows including Wagon Train,
Playhouse 90 and even Gilligan's Island (no, he did not write that
theme song).

Besides Williams best known scores, most in collaboration with Steven
Spielberg or George Lucas, he has composed dozens of others including
Conrack, The Missouri Breaks, The Eiger Sanction, and Home Alone. In
addition to his film work, the seventy year old composer/artist has
written many concert pieces and has received to date seventeen Grammie
awards.

Here's another good site with TV credits going back to 1953, and movie
work dating back to 1959 when he worked on the film Daddy-O.:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Studio/9337/williams.html

All of that is interesting background, but does not answer
restless34's question. It is at this point that I must stick my neck
out. The Internet is a broad source of information, but it is not
always as deep as we'd like. There are many references to Mr.
Williams' score for the 1971 Delbert Mann-directed version of Jane
Eyre. It is considered by many, including the composer himself, to be
one of Mr. Williams' very best works, and quite unlike the bombastic
Star Wars-style works for which he later became so well-known. For a
long time it was out of print and commanded prices of up to $200 even
though the recorded soundtrack is only 33 minutes long. Fortunately
for fans of this particular work, it was remastered and reissued in
1999 on the Silva Screen label. It can be found at Amazon.com (
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000026CHZ/qid=1035873641/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-1868850-8905531?v=glance&n=507846
)

I was able to find one direct reference to the question of the piano
piece played by Edward Rochester for Jane Eyre in an IMDB review by
Christopher Mulrooney: "While Delbert Mann is quietly generating his
masterpiece with a sensible gravity of motion, you might not mark
perhaps that the composer whose work is put to the test as Jane plays
it "a little" at the piano is none other than John Williams." That
review is found at http://us.imdb.com/Title?0065911 . It should be
noted that Mr. Mulrooney has written over 500 other reviews for IMDb
(including one for the 1944 Orson Welles version of Jane Eyre), which
is the Internet's premier source for movie information, designed for
both consumers and industry professionals.

I am inclined to believe that statement, but would be more content if
I could have found a backup source for Mulrooney's assertion. I was
unable to. Unfortunately, as a Google researcher, we are limited by
time and money to using mostly Internet resources. Had I carte
blanche, I would visit Vanderbilt University where, according to
http://www.library.vanderbilt.edu/speccol/mannd_prod2.shtml
Delbert Mann's papers regarding his Jane Eyre are to be found. Here is
what Vanderbilt has catalogued:

"Title: Jane Eyre
Date: 1970 (Released 24 March 1971)
Director: Delbert Mann
Producer: Frederick Brogger
Writer: Jack Pulman (Based on the novel by Charlotte Bronte)
Music: John Williams
Distribution: Bell System Family Theatre/Omnibus Productions/NBC
Format: Television Film/Cinema
Principal Actors: George C. Scott, Susannah York, Jack Hawkins
Supporting Actors: Ian Bannen, Jean Marsh, Rachel Kempson
Contents: Outlines, Scripts, Cast Lists, Casting Photographs, Crew
List, Titles and Credits, Notes, Music Notes, Sound Notes, Background,
Scene and Actor Breakdown, Scene and Timing Breakdown, Scene Plans,
List of Suggested Cuts, Prop Lists, Program Format, Sheet Music,
Schedules, Production Plans, Daily Progress Reports, Rushes Reports,
Daily Diary, Continuity Sheets, Set Designs, Sketches, Location
Information, Location Photographs, Budget, Legal Documents, Publicity,
Correspondence, Memoirs, Photographs, Scrapbook
Memoirs: Part III, p. 86-125, 125A-125D
Scrapbook: Volume XVI, 1970-1972
Location: Boxes 26-28, 94, 99, 107, 114, Map and Print File

Where is the Special Collections Library located?
Special Collections is located on the second floor of the Central
Library at 419 21st Avenue South. There are entrances on the second
level of the building, across the street from the CVS Pharmacy at the
corner of 21st Avenue South and Scarritt Place. There is also an
entrance in the breezeway between the old and new sections of the
library building. View a map of the building location. You may also
view a floorplan showing the location of Special Collections at the
Central Library Virtual Tour:"

Chances are excellent the above collection would  put to rest any
lingering doubts about the Williams Jane Eyre score, as well as
providing (if you could legally acquire it) the actual sheet music to
the movie. Sadly, Google has not yet implemented a program for
commissioning Google researcher travel or I'd be on my way to
Nashville tomorrow. Until that happens, or until someone "comments"
this answer with information to the contrary, I shall assert that the
piece you asked about was composed by John Williams rather than some
other "classical" composer.

As an aside, I did look for sheet music for this Jane Eyre and was
unable to find it on the Internet. It is certainly possible to find
sheet music for some of Mr. Williams more famous works, such as Star
Wars, but JE remains elusive.

I would like to commend one more bit of reading to you: there is a
fascinating (albeit horridly transcribed) 1980 Boston Globe Magazine
interview  with Mr. Williams at this website:
http://johnwilliams.home.sapo.pt/artigos/ingles/boston-globe-29-6-80.htm
Also, if you're interested, there is a copy of the original Jane Eyre
soundtrack LP currently for sale at eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=916137736

While I believe I have found the "correct" answer for you, without a
verifying second source, I know my assertion could be disproved.
Should that happen, simply ask Google for a refund of your fee. If you
want clarification of anything in my answer, please post your request
and I'll do my best to provide it.

Google search strategies: "john williams" "jane eyre"; "john williams"
"sheet music"

Thanks for your question - I've enjoyed working on it.

ericynot-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by restless34-ga on 29 Oct 2002 06:39 PST
I actually did find sheet music for Jane Eyre... ordered it... but it
was apparently for some British version of the film.  Oh, well.  I
wonder if there is anyplace on the Internet to find the complete
credits for the film – what would roll at the end, crediting any
non-Williams piece of music used.  I so vividly remember as a teenager
(having seen the movie about five times by then) paying extremely
careful attention to the end credits and being excited to see a
classical piece named.  I wrote it down but alas, that was many moons
(and many moves) ago.  I think it's a crime the DVD cuts off the end
production credits of the film; I suppose I shall have to find the VHS
for rent or even purchase it to see if they're on that version.  But
if you could do a check for full end credits on that film, or find the
name of someone for me to contact (e.g., is the director still
living?), I would be most appreciative.   (It makes no sense to me
that if Williams composed the little piano ditty himself, which was a
lovely, haunting melody, he wouldn't have put it on his very short
soundtrack.  Which, BTW, is now widely available thanks to the
reissue.)  Thanks so much for all your diligence thus far!  I'm very
impressed by the service.

Clarification of Answer by ericynot-ga on 29 Oct 2002 11:19 PST
I agree with you that credits on a DVD should never be truncated. That
is a crime.

Unfortunately, because of the relative obscurity of this version of
Jane Eyre (there have been ten TV and movie versions of it made that I
can identify), I don't think we're going to do any more good online.
IMDb has a pretty complete credit listing, but it is not exhaustive.

I suggest this: Blockbuster doesn't have it available, so renting
might take a lot of looking. However, the movie is available at Barnes
and Noble in DVD, DVD-Budget Edition, and VHS. If you now have the
Budget DVD, you might want to consider purchasing the other version in
hopes of finding an entire list of credits (the regular DVD costs
$9.99, only a buck more than the "budget" one). Or, you might want to
go for the VHS tape. For some reason, at $13.99 it costs a little more
than the DVDs.  But, the tape might very well have the information
you're seeking (and I can tell you're itching to to prove my belief -
that Williams wrote the piece himself - incorrect :-) Here's the VHS
site at B & N: http://btobvideo.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?userid=3DXEGEP1G2&EAN=89859413537

If that approach doesn't work, you might try contacting the Vanderbilt
University Special Collections to see if they will look into their
Delbert Mann archives for you (heck, if you don't live too far from
Nashville, you could even go there on vacation). Their website says
they have the music notes and the sheet music for the movie - that
would seem to me the definitive source. Here is the contact
information if you want to go that route:

Special Collections and University Archives
The Jean and Alexander Heard Library
Vanderbilt University
419 21st Avenue South
Nashville, TN 37240-0007
(615) 322-2807 
email: archives@library.vanderbilt.edu 

It appears from IMDb that director Delbert Mann is still living, but
he's now 82 and his last film credit was eight years ago, so it's
probably not a good idea to try to reach him personally. You could try
reaching Johnny T. (I feel like I've gotten to know him working on
your question) at this address, but I wouldn't hold out much hope of
getting a reply from a guy as busy as Williams (maybe he has staff to
respond?):
 
John Williams
c/o The Gorfaine/Schwartz Agency, Inc.
13245 Riverside Drive, Suite 450
Sherman Oaks, CA 91423
http://www.johnwilliams.org/reference/faq.html

Best of luck. If you find out anything additional about your question,
please post it to Google Answers. I regularly go back to questions of
interest (mine and other researchers) such as this just to see if
there's any update.

ericynot-ga
restless34-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars
Researcher acknowledges he couldn't find a definitive answer to this
admittedly difficult/obscure question on his first try, but he
certainly gets a big E for Effort!  Impressive work.

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