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Subject:
pc network problem
Category: Computers Asked by: pckaiser-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
28 Oct 2002 18:37 PST
Expires: 27 Nov 2002 18:37 PST Question ID: 91570 |
I have two cable modem, 30 computers. the cable modem provide dynamic ip address. and 1 switch connect all 30 computers together. so, how can I connect two modems with all 30 computers together. I need both cable modem running and working. I try that with 1 router connect both cable modem to router and another rj45 connect from switch to router, but result is only 1 modem work for that router. both can't working at the same time. if anyone has answer please response asap |
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Re: pc network problem
Answered By: mrbuzz-ga on 28 Oct 2002 19:43 PST |
Hi pckaiser-ga, Ive had a similar setup going at a LAN party recently with my friends. We had 16 computers and 3 cablemodems. What we ended up doing is having 3 sharing computers, each with 2 nics (network cards) and connecting them to 2 switches. In your case, since you already have a router, you can save on having to buy an extra nic for one of your sharing computers. Im assuming youre using Windows 98 or above (if not let me know). Heres the setup that will let you utilize both cablemodems. First divide your 30 computers into 2 groups. How you divide the computers is generally up to you but its best to separate the heavy bandwidth users so that theyre on different Groups. Group A will be using cablemodem A and group B will be using cablemodem B. Your sharing computer for group A will have 2 nics in it. If youre using your router, you dont need a sharing computer for group B since your router will be doing the sharing instead. If you dont want to use your router, youll need another computer with 2 network cards in it. Heres how the connections will work: Cablemodem A -> Group A sharing computers first nic Group A sharing computers second nic -> Switch Cablemodem B -> Router -> Switch All other computers will connect directly to switch For the Group A sharing computer, you will need to enable ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). On Win98, this is done through Control Panel, Internet Options, Connections tab, Sharing button, and enable Internet Connection Sharing and follow instructions on the wizard when it asks which network card is connected to the cablemodem and which one is connected to the switch. Then open up Control Panel, Network, Properties for TCP/IP of the network card connecting to switch, set the IP to 192.168.1.2 with subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. With WinXP, its enabled through Control Panel, Network Connections. For the network adapter thats connected to the cablemodem, right click, Properties, Advanced, check first box under Internet Connection Sharing. OK all the way out. Then right click on the network adapter connecting to the switch, Properties, double click on TCP/IP, set the IP to 192.168.1.2 with subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. If you are not using a router, repeat the instructions above for Group Bs sharing computer and use an IP of 192.168.1.1 for the network card connecting to the switch. If you are using a router such as Linksys, make sure its using a LAN IP of 192.168.1.1 and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. For routers such as D-Link, the default LAN IP is 192.168.0.1 which youll have to change to 192.168.1.1. Microsofts routers default is 192.168.2.1 which youll have to change to 192.168.1.1 as well. Finally for every other computer on the network, youll need to go into the properties of their network cards and set the gateway IP to their Groups corresponding sharing computer. For example, a computer from Group A will set its gateway IP to 192.168.1.2. All Group Bs computers will be set to 192.168.1.1. This way, all computers will be kind of load balancing between the two cablemodems. You will also need to give each computer a unique IP in the 192.168.1.3-192.168.1.254 range. You may also need to set the DNS servers on each computer as well to match the ones off the cablemodem. If you dont know how to do this, let me know. To set the gateway IP on Win98, open up Control Panel, Networks. Properties for TCP/IP, Gateway tab, and add the corresponding IP (192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.2). To set the gateway IP on WinXP, open up Control Panel, Network Connections, right click on network adapter, Properties, double click TCP/IP, set gateway to the corresponding IP (192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.2). This will let all your computers see each other in Network Neighborhood (or My Network Places on WinXP) as well as access the Internet. The above setup, while similar, worked quite well at my LAN party and everyone was generally happy with the speed compared to the last LAN party we had where we only had one cablemodem. Please let me know if any of the above is unclear or if something doesnt work. Good luck, mrbuzz-ga |
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Re: pc network problem
From: dray-ga on 28 Oct 2002 20:31 PST |
To do this job correctly you need a second router. You could use the ICS, but a second router is cheap and a much better arrangement. Have the two routers on the same subnet (perhaps make the first one 192.168.1.1 and the second 192.168.1.2 -- whatever is compatible with your current router setup). You can use the DHCP server (automatic IP assignment) in one of the routers & disable the other. Both routers plug into the existing hub or switch. Now, just set half of the computers' default gateway addresses to 192.168.1.1, and the other half to 192.168.1.2. That ought to do it. |
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Re: pc network problem
From: sparky4ca-ga on 28 Oct 2002 20:55 PST |
I might be reading the answer wrong, but I don't see how, without some sort of connection between the two groups, they would see each other in network neighbourhood. YOu need some sort of gateway or bridge between the two groups, which are actually 2 separate networks. What I would do is this: Have a router connected to each cable modem. each router is either using an internal switch or is connected to the uplink port on a separate switch. You're going to be connecting half of the computers to one switch and half to the other switch. Setup one of the routers to be 192.168.1.1 and the other to be 192.168.1.100, then set each router to assign IPs only from the 99 IP addresses above it (2-99 and 101-200). Each PC will need to be configured to use one of the routers for DHCP and gateway services, as well as all the other nice TCP stuff like DNS. Once you have 2 distinct networks working with internet access, and every PC has a unique ip address that begins with 192.168.1. then it's time to connect the 2 switches. I'm not sure exactly the procedure, but I woud try: 1) A patch cable from one switch to the other 2) A cross over cable from one to the other. 3) A windows XP PC with 2 NICs, connected to each switch. In Netowrk connections, click on one of the lan connections, right click on it, and choose bridge this connection. When it asks you what to cridge it to, choose the other lan connection. Try it in that order, as the first two are simple. Basically, to test, ping a PC on the other LAN from a PC on the first LAN. When they can ping each other, there's a connection between your 2 LANs. |
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Re: pc network problem
From: mathtalk-ga on 28 Oct 2002 21:04 PST |
Hi, pckaiser-ga: You don't mention what sort of router you have, but there are commercial units which are designed for load balancing between two cable modems. While they are perhaps somewhat pricey for a LAN party, for business use the cost seems small in comparison to the headaches of maintaining distinctive configurations on subsets of machines. Here's an advertisement for such a router, I'm sure there are competing models: http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/shop/ShopDetail.asp?SupplierID=%25&CategoryID=2&Description=&Submit2=%3A%3A+GO+%3A%3A&offset=10&ProductID=156 regards, |
Subject:
Re: pc network problem
From: donnieyoo-ga on 29 Oct 2002 16:13 PST |
:) there are couple ways to do this .. first : buy a router that connects 2 or more cable modem that does load balancing ...(Best way) second : use a computer to rout your cbale modem .. need 3 networkcards and Operating system than computer will become a router third : you need two routers, divid the 30 computers into 2 group, setup the router into 2 different IP(ex. 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2), set all the computer ip to static (ex. ip: 192.168.1.5 gatway : 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.2 DNS: need to match the router) |
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