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Where-a-bouts of dead birds
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: zipidydoda-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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29 Oct 2002 20:30 PST
Expires: 28 Nov 2002 20:30 PST Question ID: 92772 |
My question is simple. Where are all the dead birds? Even in my desert neighborhood there must be thousands of birds living in all of the neighborhood trees and it certainly sounds like it on some mornings, yet I have never seen any dead birds in my yard or in the yards of my neighbors. I have only seen a few dead newly hatched birds that have fallen from nests, but no adult sized birds. Surely, I think, I would have seen some in my lifetime. I do not think the cat population is sufficient to handle this issue. I go to parks and see no dead birds there either. I don't mean to be morbid about this, but I am certainly curious. |
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Re: Where-a-bouts of dead birds
Answered By: robertskelton-ga on 29 Oct 2002 21:09 PST Rated: |
Hi there, Quick answer: Birds which get sick are easy prey, so they get eaten before they have a chance to die of their illness. There are many animals that will quickly devour a dead bird, especially cats, dogs and rats. Otherwise insects will get them. I found a webpage which quotes a book entitled "Why do clocks run clockwise? And other imponderables', by David Feldman. The quote goes like this: ------------ Why don't we ever see dead birds ? ... but why don't we ever see one dead [bird] from natural causes ? Don't they ever keel over in flight ? Do birds go someplace special to die ? Surprisingly, birds don't fly anywhere particular to die. The reason we don't see dead birds is that they are quickly scavenged by other animals. Although this sounds like a cruel fate, bird expert Starr Saphir views it differently, marveling at the efficiency of the natural world. The moment a bird can no longer function, it is used as a valuable fuel. Birds are eaten by cats, dogs, rats, opossums, small insects, and even bacteria. Saphir told us that she has led birdwatching walks and seen the intact but dead body of a bird on the ground on the first leg of the walk; on the way back, an hour later, the majority of the body was already scavenged. Within 24 hours, the remains of most birds in the wild or in an urban area, would presumably become only a pile of feathers. Richard C. Banks, vice-president of the US Ornithologist's Union, told 'Imponderables' that a few birds might actually die in flight (although he had not personally ever seen this happen). The most likely candidates would be migrating birds flying over the ocean, far away from food sources and without convenient landing spots to fight off exhaustion. Sick birds generally don't take wing in the first place. http://www.tamil.net/list/1998-11/msg00330.html ------------ I also found this page which is specifically about Robins: "But usually when robins get sick, their slow flight and confused actions make them easy for predators to find, so the robins get eaten rather than simply keeling over dead. Robins weigh only about 2 1/2 to 3 ounces, so when one does die of a sickness, it doesn't take long for scavengers to make it disappear!" http://www.learner.org/jnorth/tm/robin/ExpertAnswer02.html Dr Universe looks into the maggot side of things: http://www.wsu.edu/DrUniverse/gross.html A kid from Club 80 believes your question can be answered with just two words: Chicken McNuggets http://www.mtzioncc.org/youth/quotes.html Four other opinions via the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-6002,00.html Finally, there seems to be a lot of websites discussing dead birds and the West Nile virus. Any time you come across many dead birds, you can assume there's something wrong. Search strategy: "see dead birds" ://www.google.com/search?q=%22see+dead+birds%22 Best wishes, robertskelton-ga |
zipidydoda-ga
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Hummmmm......I'm sure that all those experts have probably provided the right answer, and it is logical too, but.... I'm still not all that convinced. Like I said, we don't have a very large cat population, and I live in the desert. I'm 53 years old. I just can't help thinking that I should have seen at least 10 dead birds in my life. I am an avid Google user (information junkie), but somehow I never thought to search for the answer in the way you did because none of the people I asked in person has ever considered the question. It is simply incredible that Google has come up with 583,000 hits to "see dead birds." Thanks.(that sure was a quick and easy way to make $3.75) |
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Re: Where-a-bouts of dead birds
From: robertskelton-ga on 31 Oct 2002 01:20 PST |
Actually "see dead birds", surrounded by quotes, only has 113 hits, of which 72 are unique. Most of these are regarding the West Nile virus. It is easy to dismiss a search as being quick and easy, but there is actually a level of talent/experience/intuition/luck involved as well. I reckon I would see about 10 dead birds a year, and I mostly hang out in the city. I wouldn't consider myself the most observant of people. |
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Re: Where-a-bouts of dead birds
From: zipidydoda-ga on 31 Oct 2002 06:15 PST |
Dear robertskelton-ga, I only put the quotes around "see dead birds" in my comments to you so as to set off the words. I know that using quotes brings different results in a search. Also, I am not one to dismiss your or anyone's search as being quick and easy. I understand the "level of talent/experience/intuition/luck " that you speak of. I understand because I posess this skill myself, and it is definitely a skill not everyone has. I am often a source for friends who need information and I find I have an excellent knack for this, and it is based on talent, experience, intuition and luck. You have put this so well. I really do appreciate your efforts on my behalf. Since you have this skill, I know it was a quick and easy way for you to earn a few dollars. I'm jealous. Peace....zipidydoda-ga ( I swear I never see dead birds.) |
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Re: Where-a-bouts of dead birds
From: geekjive-ga on 31 Oct 2002 13:13 PST |
i saw a dead bird once. in chicago, december of 2001. it was frozen in the snow. maybe that's why it hadn't been eaten - too hard to eat a frozen bird. |
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