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How forgiving of low LSAT's are law schools, given other favorable qualification
Category: Reference, Education and News Asked by: lehighluke-ga List Price: $8.00 |
Posted:
30 Oct 2002 13:55 PST
Expires: 29 Nov 2002 13:55 PST Question ID: 93567 |
I am applying to top 20 Law schools: U.Penn, Georgetown, Duke, Boston U. Unfortunately I just found out that I did poorly on my LSAT's: 157. My score is 5-10 points below the average scores for these schools. However, the rest of my application is very strong. I had a good GPA in college: 3.47 overall, 3.71 in my major. My major was Materials Science & Engineering, at Lehigh U., which is VERY strong in that field. I have a bunch of great work experience, internships. I have numerous academic honors and scholarships. Since graduating in 6/02, I have been working for an engineering consulting firm. My company provides expert witnesses for product liability litigation, mostly concerning automobiles, but we have pretty diverse cases. The point is, my background is VERY unique in that I have exposure to a facet of the legal industry that most other applicants will not have. My reccomendations should all be shining (I hope) and I think my personal statement is also fairly strong. I just have this nagging, low, LSAT score that is really worrying me. My question is: will the schools that I'm applying to simply throw my application in the trash when they see my LSAT score? Or will I be given extra consideration consdering my other favorable qualifications? I have heard that engineers are particularly sought after...but to what extent? Can my major cancel out a rotten LSAT score? To what extent will my unique legal-related work background effect my chances of getting in? I know this question seems multi-part, but it is actually quite simple. How do law schools weigh factors against LSAT scores? |
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Re: How forgiving of low LSAT's are law schools, given other favorable qualification
Answered By: leader-ga on 30 Oct 2002 17:52 PST |
The two most important factors that law schools consider in evaluating a candidate are GPA and LSAT scores. Other main factors include your work experience and reccomendation letters. But this is not all. From your brief bio data it seems to me that you still stand a very good chance of being accepted in one of the top 20 colleges. Nowadays, more and more emphasis is laid on a complete history of a candidate instead of just the LSAT. ( More selective schools are very careful not to look at only one factor ). I think, the websites of individual schools will proove my point.(Look at the admission process or admission criteria). A sample of one of the top law school admission criteria is available at: http://www.career.cornell.edu/students/grad/health/humanmedicine/factors.html Some of the following links will also provide you with LSAT admission criteria and weight of individual factors: http://www.napla.org/LSAT.htm http://www.las.uiuc.edu/students/careeraids/pre_law/law_school/lsat_and_gpa.html http://www.class.ewu.edu/class/GOVN/PreLawRoot/Admission.html http://fp.arizona.edu/prelaw/Academics/Admission%20Factors.HTM http://www.skidmore.edu/~tschmeli/factors.html http://www.collegeboard.com/article/0,1120,4-22-0-http://www.admissionsconsultants.com/mba/mba_admissions_factors.asp If you look at the mean LSAT scores of the top law schools, be very creful how to evaluate the scorings. There are lot of students that fall under the mean but are able to get admission because of the other strong factors. Useful search terms on Google: "LSAT admission factors" Regards, leader-ga | |
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Re: How forgiving of low LSAT's are law schools, given other favorable qualification
From: lcsonka39-ga on 31 Oct 2002 06:26 PST |
not really giving an answer, just some advice. im definately not at the age of applying for grad school yet, but just a word of advice, dont worry about your lsat score. it might be a little low, im not sure of the scale, but speaking from experience, i believe schools nowadays are making character judgements (ie. motivation, entreprenurialship) along with looking at intelligence. In short, I had the same situation getting into college as you have getting into law school wth my low scores, etc.. Albeit its a whole different world, I still made it to my top choice, and probably one of the best schools of its kind in the world. So, dont give up. If you feel confident, then only good things can happen. If you worry, it will only make trouble... |
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Re: How forgiving of low LSAT's are law schools, given other favorable qualification
From: anyglen-ga on 31 Oct 2002 10:26 PST |
leader, what the hell was your first link in your answer?? It's a link to med school admissions! Unfortunately, I can tell you first hand that you will not get into Penn with those numbers. Encouragement is great, but it's time to be real. If you over shoot your target schools, you won't have any options. Unrealistically optimistic thinking will only hurt you at this point because you cannot change anything that will influence admissions. Next year's class is already almost full with deferrals from our class this year (overenrolled by about 100 students). Your gpa is fine, but not good relative to other applicants (3.6 average). Your lsat is far, far below average. Despite what anyone tells you, law schools are numbers whores. They have to be because of the volume of apps. How else would you sort the candidates? Nothing in your resume will make up for this at top schools. There are many people applying with both stellar resumes AND numbers. You won't get into duke or gtown either, but bu is worth a shot. The only resource you really need is the lsac.org calculator and the admissions grids for each school. use the calculator to determine your odds and apply accordingly. |
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Re: How forgiving of low LSAT's are law schools, given other favorable qualification
From: lehighluke-ga on 31 Oct 2002 12:38 PST |
anyglen: I do not mind your criticism, I actually appreciate it. It is so difficult to get the "practical" information...admissions offices will never admit that they are numbers whores. I do not want to be naive...I don't want to get my hopes up for a lost cause. I did look at LSAC's website, the calculator and all. Lets just say my chances are not that good. I have also looked for the various law school grids. I have found generic ones that give rough percentages of admitance for various combinations of GPA and LSAT's. However, I have not been able to find grids that give the actual number applied/number accepted for said combinations. If anybody can guide me to the grids for the schools mentioned above, I would appreciate it. I value comments from anyone that can help me gain perspective on the law school admissions process, and where I stand...whether good or bad. Insight of the advantage of engineers v. non-engineers is also desired, and whether any advantage exists at all. Keep 'em coming folks! |
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