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What is the best laptop for use in Linux?
Category: Computers > Hardware Asked by: bahua-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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31 Oct 2002 03:15 PST
Expires: 30 Nov 2002 03:15 PST Question ID: 94039 |
I have been looking around the internet for a replacement for my Sony Vaio PCG-R505ES Notebook, which, unfortunately, performs very poorly in XFree86. I have had bad luck, so far, as it seems very difficult to find the specifics I want, in an easily readable format. -I have a few simple needs and requirements: 12"(+/- 1") Display that can do at least 1024x768 in 32 bit mode(fullscreen) Excellent 2d graphic performance(Geforce go and ati mobility come to mind...) At least 1.2 GHz CPU At least 256 MB of RAM DVD drive External volume control(I know this sounds odd, but my Sony doesn't have this, and I find it very annoying) -Very nice, but not essential: 3d performance CD-Writing 802.11b Firewire Docking station trackball or eraser-head PS/2 pointing device onboard Anything I haven't mentioned can be considered unneeded. At this point I have no price cap. I want to see how much it will cost to get what i want, if it's possible. |
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Re: What is the best laptop for use in Linux?
Answered By: theta-ga on 31 Oct 2002 06:18 PST Rated: |
There are very few companies that provide worthwhile Linux support on Laptops, and finding one from among those that exactly meets your requirements is a tall order indeed. It might just be easier for you to get your laptop custom assembled. However, let me summarize the information I found regarding various companies and their Linux offerings. DELL ( www.dell.com ) ---- Although Dell has mostly dropped support for Linux on its system, its website states " Linux solutions on ... Latitude notebooks may be ordered via Dell's Custom Factory Install." Dells custom factory install allows you to customize the hardware and software that will come preinstalled with your machine.They also claim to supply Red Hat Linux Certified hardware components for your machine, so compatibility should not be much of an issue. - Dell's Custom Factory Install ( www.dell.com/CFI/ ) - Dell's Latitude Laptop line ( starts at ~$1200 ) ( http://www.dell.com/us/en/bsd/products/series_latit_notebooks.htm ) You should also take a look at user experiences with installing Linux on Dell Laptops ( http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html ) Overall, I find that user experience has been pretty good with Dell. Add to that the various customizations that you can do plus the cheapest price around, I feel this is the way to go. IBM ---- Although it does no seem to offer Linux preinstalled with its systems, IBM provides a very competent Linux certification guide, showing how compatible each of its laptop offerings is with the various Linux distributions. The hardware config of the systems for sale can also be customized to your needs. - IBM ThinkPad Line ( http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=2035724&catalogId=-840&langId=-1&storeId=1 ) - IBM Laptop Systems Certification Info ( http://www.linuxcare.com/labs/certs/ibm.epl ) - User experiences installing Linux on IBM laptops ( http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ibm.html ) EMPEROR LINUX ( http://www.emperorlinux.com/ ) -------------- This US based vendor provides preInstalled linux on Laptops based on various brand-name portables available: Sony VAIO's, Dell Inspiron's, and IBM Thinkpad's etc. The main page claims that "We will not offer a laptop until we are confident that it is configured to fully exploit its hardware" Its BlackPearl R range seems to offer what you need. Prices above $2000. Also provide custom configured laptops. Call them for pricing. - Laptop Range ( http://www.emperorlinux.com/laptops.html ) - Customized Laptops ( http://www.emperorlinux.com/custom.html ) OTHER Vendors -------------- The following sites will offer links to some more Linux vendors and also provide you with comprehensive user experience info with the various laptops on offer. - Linux on Laptops ( http://www.linux-laptop.net/ ) Provides very comprehensive user experience reports on installing and working with Linux on the different laptop models in the market. Be sure to check out your model on this site before buying. - Linux Laptop SuperGuide ( http://lhd.zdnet.com/superguides/laptops.html ) Provides info on user experiences with various laptops. Also provides laptop Linux Certification information when present. - Laptop Manufacturers - Linux Status ( http://mobilix.org/laptop_manufacturer.html ) A survey of ~100 laptop manufacturers and their current Linux status. Also provides links to non US vendors. ====================================================== Linux on laptop is in a state of very rapid change. Luckily, its mostly for the better. As such it is very hard to keep up with the everchanging laptop models available, although I hope that the above answer will provide you with the relevant help. If you have any questions, just ask. :) | |
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Thank you very much for your effort, but I think I might be asking the impossible. |
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Re: What is the best laptop for use in Linux?
From: jcm-ga on 31 Oct 2002 07:21 PST |
I recently purchased an Apple Powerbook G4, which is running Debian. Although this is not an Intel box and doesn't precisely meet your list of requirements, I would strongly suggest that you consider the iBooks/Powerbooks, especially as gcc 3 is in ports now so you can compile the system with altivec optimisation and other bells and whistles. I am in the process of writing a review for a journal - drop me a line if you'd like a link when it gets published. Also, a friend recently got a Vaio but we've had no end of little problems with that lovely quirky hardware Sony insist on sticking in their machines. Feel free to ask me questions though. |
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Re: What is the best laptop for use in Linux?
From: iaint-ga on 31 Oct 2002 07:50 PST |
Hello bahua I spent a while researching your question before coming to the conclusion -- which you've probably discovered yourself -- that this is a considerably harder question to answer than would be expected. The one part of your "must-have" specification that I kept running up against was the external volume control -- it's not that modern laptops don't have this, but that the ones that do rarely advertise the feature in their online specifications. That having been said, here are a couple of resources I found that might prove useful to you. First of all, if you think you've found the perfect laptop but want to know how well its hardware is supported by GNU/Linux, the single most important resource is the "Linux on Laptops" website at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ I also started trying to compile a list of laptops matching your criteria but rapidly ran into the above-mentioned problem that I wasn't able to definitively verify whether or not they had an external volume control. To meet all your other specifications was not difficult as all the major laptop vendors had machines that met or exceeded those requirements. I know this isn't a full and complete answer to your question, but I hope it goes some way towards helping you. Regards iaint-ga (long-time user of GNU/Linux on a Dell laptop) |
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Re: What is the best laptop for use in Linux?
From: bahua-ga on 31 Oct 2002 08:19 PST |
Well, as for those models you found, tell away! I am currently looking at an IBM rig, and the apples piqued my curiosity a few months back. One problem with those, however, is that I think it would be a shame to install linux over such an intriguing operating system as Apple has. theta, I'm going to give you the $15, but I think I've just been disappointed by the truth. It would seem that what I'm looking for just isn't out there. |
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Re: What is the best laptop for use in Linux?
From: iaint-ga on 31 Oct 2002 10:40 PST |
Hello again Bahua OK, the only model I found which *definitely* appeared to have the external volume control (as well as meeting all your other criteria) was the Acer TravelMate 270 series. A basic overview of the laptops can be found at http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/tm270.htm from where you can link to your local regional Acer site. In the USA this range seems to be between $1500 - $2000, in Europe from about 1700 - 2300. This isn't to say that other manufacturers' machines don't meet your criteria. I basically started going through the websites of the larger notebook manufacturers trying to find machines that met your criteria in alphabetical order, hence Acer was one of the first I checked. I rapidly became aware that I wasn't going to be able to find the information you needed purely because of the external volume control issue, so stopped before getting onto many of the "big guns" such as Gateway, IBM or Toshiba. Good luck with your quest! Regards iaint-ga |
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Re: What is the best laptop for use in Linux?
From: bahua-ga on 31 Oct 2002 19:22 PST |
The thing is, i keep looking at the specs for these recommended laptops, and keep seeing video chipsets that have very poor drivers, and one of the requirements for me is excellent 2d performance, in a small machine. Intel's 830MG, and anything from SiS is out of the question. This unfortunately seems to narrow the field down considerably, especially when coupled with the desire for a smaller(12") form factor. Unless I see differently(which I have't yet), I will have to assume, for now, that such a laptop does not exist. |
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