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Subject: POW/MIA Flag origins
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: gwc-ga
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Posted: 31 Oct 2002 07:52 PST
Expires: 30 Nov 2002 07:52 PST
Question ID: 94216
Who created the original art work for the POW / MIA flag?
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Subject: Re: POW/MIA Flag origins
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 31 Oct 2002 11:00 PST
Rated:1 out of 5 stars
 
Dear gwc-ga;

I’m pleased to help you find the answer to your question regarding one
of the finest and most historical projects ever launched in the United
States by a private citizen. The short answer is that a number of
people on a design team, commissioned by a US based flag manufacturer,
“Annin & Company”, worked in concert on the project that conceived the
design seen on the POW/MIA flag today.

Here, however, is the long story about how it came to be:

On January 7, 1970, Lt. Commander Michael George Hoff, USN, was listed
as missing in action over Laos, when his Sidewinder A7A Corsair II
aircraft failed to return to the deck of USS Coral Sea. Although he
was able to radio his “mayday” to the ship before his plane crashed
into a dense forest near the city of Sepone (Loss Coordinates: 164300N
1055100E XD158627), his body was never recovered. Hoff was only one of
almost 600 Americans listed as missing in action in Laos alone. Over
the years, the Laotian government has repeatedly denied having taken
any Americans prisoners during the war. At the same time, the  Lao
communist faction, the Pathet Lao, has admitted to having “tens of
tens” of American prisoners of war. Our own government’s official
explanation for the unreturned soldiers is due to the fact that the
Pathet Lao did not participate in the Paris Peace Talks, therefore we
were never able to negotiate for the return of these 600 missing human
beings, alive or dead. (Unofficially, the involvement of US troops in
Laos was highly classified at the time and is still defended even to
this day. To press the Laos MIA issue would be to declassify certain
documents, which the government is not ready to do). The POW Network
web site is quoted as saying, “Although the numbers of men actually
termed "prisoner of war" are quite low, this can be explained in
understanding the blanket of security surrounding the "secret war" the
U.S. waged in Laos. Only a handful of publicly exposed cases were ever
acknowledged POW, even though scores of pilots and ground personnel
were known to have been alive and well at last contact (thus
increasing the chance they were captured alive).”

In 1971, Mrs. Michael Hoff, a member of the National League of
Families whose husband was one of the men who were never negotiate
for, saw the need for a readily recognizable symbol in remembrance of
our country’s POW/MIAs. After reading an article in the Jacksonville,
Florida “Times-Union” about a flag manufacturer called “Annin &
Company”, that had produced a large flag for the People’s Republic of
China to be used to represent that country at the United Nations, Mrs.
Hoff contacted company Vice-President, Norman Rivkees, with her idea.
Rivkees, it turned out, was sympathetic to the POW/MIA issues and
agreed to assist her. He immediately ordered the company’s advertising
agency to design a flag that would suit the endeavor’s needs. “Annin &
Company” was the first to produce the flag you see flying daily in
thousands of locations across the United States today. The actual
design of the flag was a cumulative effort on the part of the
company’s advertising department.

On March 9, 1989, as a result of legislation passed overwhelmingly
during the 100th Congress, an official League POW/MIA flag was
installed in the US Capitol Rotunda, and to this day is the only flag
that has ever been displayed there. It is said that the flag will
remain until the fullest possible accounting for American POW/MIA’s
has been achieved.

Further official recognition came on August 10, 1990 when the 101st
Congress passed public law 101-355, which designates the flag "as the
symbol of our Nation’s concern and commitment to resolving as fully as
possible the fates of Americans still prisoner, missing and
unaccounted for in Southeast Asia, thus ending the uncertainty for
their families and the Nation". The POW/MIA flag bears the historical
significance of being the only flag in the history of the United
States, other than old Glory, to fly over the White House. During the
first term of the 105th Congress Section 1082 of the 1998 Defense
Authorization Act was passed which permits the flying of the League’s
POW/MIA flag “each year on Armed Forces Day, Memorial Day, Flag Day,
Independence Day, National POW/MIA Recognition Day and Veterans Day on
the grounds or in the public lobbies of major military installations
as designated by the Secretary of the Defense, all Federal national
cemeteries, the national Korean War Veterans Memorial, the National
Vietnam Veterans Memorial, the White House, the United States Postal
Service post offices and at the official offices of the Secretaries of
State, Defense and Veteran’s Affairs, and Director of the Selective
Service System”.

If you are seeking a means of advertisement using POW/MIA flyers and
posters you can call the League at (703) 602-2102, Ext. 169

I hope my research proves useful to you and answers any questions you
may have had about this most noble and patriotic project.

Best regards;
Tutuzdad-ga



National League of POW/MIA Families
“Flag History”
http://www.pow-miafamilies.org/flaghistory.html

National League of POW/MIA Families
“Background”
http://www.pow-miafamilies.org/leaguebackgrnd.html

In Memory of Lt. Commander Michael George Hoff, USN
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/8911/

All POW/MIA Histories – POW/MIA Flag
http://www.aiipowmia.com/histories/histpwflag.html

“Annin & Company”
http://www.annin.com/

Official League Vendor List
http://www.pow-miafamilies.org/vendors.html

4 Seests in Paradise
http://our.homewithgod.com/ewerluvd/ourpowmia.htm


P.O.W. Network

The National League of Families of American Prisoners and Missing in
Southeast Asia
1005 North Glebe Road
Suite 170
Arlington, Virginia 22201
(TEL) 703-465-7432
Federal Tax ID #23-7071242
NATIONAL COMBINED FEDERAL CAMPAIGN (CFC) ELIGIBILITY NUMBER IS 1174

Request for Answer Clarification by gwc-ga on 31 Oct 2002 11:21 PST
I know that Annin and Company came to have the design, but they cannot
pinpoint the origin of the original design.  I know that there are at
least two people claiming to have created the original design.

I am not satisfied with this answer...I am looking for the name of the
actual person/persons who developed the original art.  My question is:
"Who created the original art work for the POW / MIA flag?", not "Who
commisioned the original art work for the POW / MIA flag?".

My belief is that the original artist has gone unrecognized.  This is
the second most flown flag in the country.  Everyone knows about Betsy
Ross....no one knows about the artist who created the POW / MIA flag.

Clarification of Answer by tutuzdad-ga on 31 Oct 2002 12:33 PST
Dear gwc-ga;

The creation of the POW/MIA flag has long been considered a group
effort on the part of Mrs. Hoff, Annin & Company and the advertising
team they commissioned to do the work. I assumed that you wanted to
official version of how the flag came to be rather than a particular
person’s name.

If one person were to be credited with the design of the flag it would
be Newton Heisley, a former World War II pilot, who worked on the New
York design team commissioned by Annin & Company to submit designs for
consideration. Heisley himself says that he sketched the design using
the gaunt silhouette of his son Jeffrey, flanked by barbed wire and a
tower to depict the life of a prisoner of war.

Newt Heisley's black and white pencil sketch was reportedly one of
several different designs that were considered for the new flag.
Originally, Mr. Heisley intended to add color to his design but said
that his rough draft was the one accepted and produced by Annin &
Company for the POW/MIA Flag before he could finish the artwork
completely.

I called Mary Hoff’s organization, The National League of Families of
American Prisoners and Missing in Southeast Asia, in Arlington,
Virginia (703-465-7432) to inquire on your behalf as to the accuracy
of Mr. Heisley’s claims. I was told that his account is most likely
factual though no one person is being credited with the work and no
copyright has ever been sought for the design. Since Mr. Heisley
worked for the agency commissioned by Annin to do the work, I suspect
that he was at least one of the members on the design team, therefore
his design could very well have been the one we see on the flag today.

Mary Hoff, window of Lt. Cmdr. Michael Hoff, USN, (he was promoted to
the rank of Commander before being declared dead) conceived the
concept of the POW/MIA Flag.
Annin & Company, under the direction of then Vice-President Norman
Rivkees, produced the flag, bearing a design that was submitted by
their New York advertising team, upon which Mr. Heisley was a member.
Until Mr. Heisley came forward with these claims, the matter was
considered a team effort; therefore the facts I originally provided
for you regarding the origin of the flag are indeed accurate. Just as
the person who fires the last shot in a war cannot be credited with
“ending” it, Mr. Heisley’s contribution to his design team was also a
team effort. No single person is indisputably credited with this
honor.

I hope this provides the clarification you need.

Best regards;
Tutuzdad-ga

POW/MIA Flag
http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofheroes/1st_floor/flag/1bfb_disp9c.html

University of Colorado, Colorado Springs
PRESS RELEASE SEPT 16, 2001
http://web.uccs.edu/ur/pr/pr_9_16_2002.htm

Clarification of Answer by tutuzdad-ga on 31 Oct 2002 12:52 PST
ADDITIONAL SOURCES THAT SUPPORT MR. HAISLEY'S SOLE DESIGNER CLAIM:

POW/MIA Flag
http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofheroes/1st_floor/flag/1bfb_disp9c.html

University of Colorado, Colorado Springs
PRESS RELEASE SEPT 16, 2001
http://web.uccs.edu/ur/pr/pr_9_16_2002.htm


Joe "Dragon" Lozano, Chairman, Board of Directors, “Run For The Wall”
recognized Illustrator Newt Haisley as the creator them emblem as late
as Spring 2002
http://www.rftw.org/newsletter042002.htm

“East Bay Newsapaper” recognizes Newt Haisley as the designer of the
POW/MIA flag
http://www.eastbayri.com/News/2002/0606/Barrington/020.html


PPAF
http://www.ppaf.org/newsletter/sept.htm
Newt Haisley Awarded Silver Medal (1982) for his achievements in
advertising.
The American Advertising Federation Silver Medal, bestowed annually by
the Pikes Peak Advertising Federation and the advertising community is
the highest honor that can be bestowed upon a practitioner by his or
her peers.


http://www.davisandjones.com/addesign/cyrano/cyrano.html
Newt Heisley, Heisley Design & Advertising, awarded The Daymon
AdDesign Cyrano Award

Clarification of Answer by tutuzdad-ga on 31 Oct 2002 12:55 PST
Sorry for the typo - it should have read "Mr. Heisley" and not "Mr. Haisley"

Now, how shall we address this star rating problem?

Clarification of Answer by tutuzdad-ga on 31 Oct 2002 14:58 PST
C O N F I R M E D !!!

I just spoke to Mr. Newton Heisley PERSONALLY via telephone only
moments ago and he confirmed that the accepted by Annin and approved
by “The National League of Families of American Prisoners and Missing
in Southeast Asia” for use on the POW/MIA flag is indeed one that he
submitted

According to Heisley, in 1971 he was the Creative Design Director for
Hayden Advertising Company in New Jersey. (The Company’s owner,
Douglas Hayden has since died and the company is no longer in
business). Hayden was approached by Annin and asked to submit several
designs to be considered for use on the new POW/MIA flag. As Creative
Design Director, Heisley’s division received the order. He said that
he personally sketched three different images, which were submitted to
Annin. He expected the selection to be made and to be asked to finish
the sketch by adding color and detail to the work. The next thing he
hear, he says, was that Annin had adopted the draft of his sketch and
as the emblem they would be using on the flag, therefore, no other
colors or details were ever added. Heisley said that the image has
always been public domain at his insistence and no copyright has ever
been sought or obtained for the image. He said it was his “gift” to
the soldiers who remain unaccounted for. Heisley went on to say that
the creation of the flag was a group effort made up of many men and
women and that no single person is to take sole credit for its
creation.

Interestingly, when asked what became of the other images he submitted
that were turned down, Heisley said he did not know. He figures that
Annin & Company was the last entity to possess them. It is possible
that they are still out there somewhere. In terms of a historical
memorabilia, they might be quite valuable if they were to be found in
his lifetime (he is now 80 years old) and he is able to verify that
the sketches are indeed his. On another interesting note, Heisley said
“If I had a nickel for every flag I had created in my life, I’d have a
million dollars”. The POW/MIA flag, it appears, is not the only
“Heisley” creation out there!

I hope this answers your questions.

Best regards;
Tutuzdad-ga
gwc-ga rated this answer:1 out of 5 stars

Comments  
Subject: Re: POW/MIA Flag origins
From: tutuzdad-ga on 31 Oct 2002 11:31 PST
 
I will continue to research the issue further to see IF any one name
turns up as the creator/designer of the flag. To the best of my
knoweledge, however, the concept for the design was a team effort and
not attritubale to any single person. If, in fact, that is the case,
which I believe that it is, the answer I provided is quite accurate.

It is disappointing to see that that you would rate the answer you
feel is incomplete before requesting a clairification as I would
gladly have looked into other sources for you to support the facts.
Subject: Re: POW/MIA Flag origins
From: gwc-ga on 31 Oct 2002 12:09 PST
 
If I committed a faux pas in rating the answer at this juncture, I
apologize.  In my discussions with Annin and the National League of
POW/MIA Families, they made no mention of a "commisioned committee"
design.  All of my queries have turned up an "I don't know" answer,
hence my disappointment in the quick "committee" answer from a paid
service.  If Annin can state what the committee was, or from whom they
commissioned the work, it would be helpful.  My motivation here is to
validate that they do not know where the design came from, for I
believe that I do.
Subject: Re: POW/MIA Flag origins
From: geekjive-ga on 31 Oct 2002 12:43 PST
 
it seems as though you wrote to google answers with the sole intent of
stumping them, since you apparently believe you have the answer to
this question. no fair rating your researcher with one star since you
are obviously asking a question that only YOU have the answer to.
Subject: Re: POW/MIA Flag origins
From: gwc-ga on 31 Oct 2002 14:10 PST
 
geekjive-ga,
In no way am I trying to stump Google.  I have been conducting
research with the interest of validating certain assumptions that I
hold.  If these assumptions can be disproved, then fine.   My question
was very specific, and the first answer, while well intended and
comprehensive, did not directly target my question....I'm new at this,
as is Google.  If I had framed my question more clearly, it would have
been better for all.  I have memory of designs being requested through
a local VFW post in Westborough, Massachusetts during this time
period.  I wonder if these were requested as part of an overall effort
by Annin and Company's advertising agency?

tutuzdad-ga,
This is getting much closer to what I was hoping for.  Is there a way
to track down this design team?...Google or myself?
Also, is the one star fixed, or can it be changed?
Subject: Re: POW/MIA Flag origins
From: tutuzdad-ga on 31 Oct 2002 14:15 PST
 
I will see what more I can find. It may take some time.

As for the stars, I don't know if anything can be done about the
rating. You may be able to find out about modifying an
incorrect/unintentional rating through the Google Answers Help file. I
do know that will definitely have an adverse affect on my overall
rating as a researcher, so if you placed the rating unintentionally,
it would certaininly be nice if it could be corrected.
Subject: Re: POW/MIA Flag origins
From: gwc-ga on 31 Oct 2002 16:39 PST
 
Please realize that you have brought clarity to an issue that has been
a curiosity to me for at least ten years, and in ptaking the time to
conduct this research, you have made a significant contribution to
that which is the fabric of our nation.

Thank you for the clarification.  I will do my best to raise this star
rating.

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