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Subject: Windows Networking problem
Category: Computers > Operating Systems
Asked by: respree-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 31 Oct 2002 12:56 PST
Expires: 30 Nov 2002 12:56 PST
Question ID: 94558
Need an answer from somebody who has experience actually setting up a
Windows network.  All the online help I've come across have proven
uphelpful.

Am trying to Network an ME desktop with my XP laptop and have spent
hours unsucessfully trying to get it to work.

I get the message UNABLE TO BROWSE NETWORK.

Assuming the following is true, 

* file sharing enabled on both computers for entire C drive
* am able to access the Internet on both computers
* Network Settings (from Control Panel): file and print sharing; both
boxes checked
* Network Settings - both computers belong to the same "WorkGroup"
* Network Settings - access control; both computers = "share-level
access control" radio button checked
* Network Settings - TCP/IP properties, File and printer sharing for
MS Networks checked

...what are the most likely culprits.

Any and all comments are welcome.  Thanks!

Request for Question Clarification by brightshadow-ga on 31 Oct 2002 13:09 PST
Are you able to access the other systems by searching for the other
computer?

On the XP system, right click on My Network Places, go to Search For
Computers, and type in the computer name of the ME system.

(On the ME system, the procedure should be similar.)

If you can locate the other system by this method, once it finds the
other machine, you should be able to access it normally via Network
Neighborhood/My Network Places.

Alternately, you may be able to establish a network connection (to
browse) by pinging the other machine's IP address.

Assume the XP machine is 192.168.0.1, and the ME machine is
192.168.0.2. At a command prompt (start -> run -> type "command"
without quotes, hit enter) do the following:

On the XP system: 

ping 192.168.0.1 [this will test to see if the XP system's TCP/IP
stack is functioning and that it is indeed identifiable by this IP
address]

ping 192.168.0.2 [this will test to see if the XP system is able to
reach the ME system.]

On the ME system, do the same commands, but the results will be
reversed (.0.2 will test itself, .0.1 will test the XP system.)

Once you've done this, does it establish a network share?

Request for Question Clarification by brightshadow-ga on 31 Oct 2002 13:14 PST
(Another step that may help -- try linking directly to the other
computer instead of searching for it or looking for it in network
neighborhood/my network places.)

Let's assume that the XP system is named "XP_PEER" and that the ME
system is named "ME_PEER".

On the XP system, go to Start, Run, and type "\\XP_PEER" without the
quotes, and hit enter. If this appears, the XP system has opened its
own network share successfully.

Next, go to Start, Run, and type "\\ME_PEER" without the quotes, and
hit enter. If this appears, the XP system has opened the ME system's
network share successfully.

Again, once you've established an initial link between the machines,
filesharing may work as you expect it to. (Try rebooting both systems
to find out.)

Another option would be to use the comment made earlier, but making
user accounts would probably (correct me if I'm wrong here) require
that you use user-level filesharing permissions, which is not the
goal, I don't think..

Clarification of Question by respree-ga on 31 Oct 2002 13:24 PST
Many thanks for your responses and comments. I will try the comments
suggested (none of which I have tried yet). Sorry I'm unable to
respond the questions right now, as the computers are actually at my
girlfriend's house.  I will post answers as soon as possible.
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Subject: Re: Windows Networking problem
From: mercuryinhell-ga on 31 Oct 2002 16:45 PST
 
I was first to reply to this but google deleted it because I posted my
email on it.

Ok, here goes.  The Me machine doesn't know the other computer.  So,
setup a user account and password on both machines that is identical. 
This will trick the computer into thinking it is working with itself,
kinda.  But, this will solve your problem.  It works great at lan
parties when you have different OS's.
Subject: Re: Windows Networking problem
From: respree-ga on 31 Oct 2002 17:01 PST
 
Many thanks for the repost. I went back and it was gone (and was sorry
I didn't print it out). =(

I guess the forum enforces their rules; Big Google is watching... =)
Subject: Re: Windows Networking problem
From: serpentx-ga on 02 Nov 2002 05:13 PST
 
What does the physical network setup look like?  Are you plugging
these machines into a hub/switch/cable router, or are you trying to
connect them directly with one cable?  It sounds like you're set up
with the former, but if you're using the latter setup, a normal
ethernet patch cable cannot be used to make a direct connection.  You
would need a crossover cable so that the Tx pins on one card are
linked to the Rx pins on the other and vice-versa.

Of course, if you're using wireless, all bets are off.
Subject: Re: Windows Networking problem
From: respree-ga on 02 Nov 2002 07:54 PST
 
Cable -> Cable modem -> Router --> Desktop/Laptop

Both computers connect to Router via CAT5 cable.
Subject: Re: Windows Networking problem
From: nightshade-ga on 02 Nov 2002 14:25 PST
 
The following will work with Windows XP Pro.  I'm not
sure about XP Home.

As above establish a user account on the XP machine (Right Click
on my computer->Manage)

Enable NTLM authentication instead of just Kerb. authentication.

Click->Start->run->gpedit.msc

Browse to:
Local Computer Policy-> Windows Settings->Security Settings->Security Options

Choose Network Security: Lan Manager authentication level
Select Send LM & NTLM responses

Good Luck...

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