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Natural Grids in Nature
Category: Science Asked by: designcrew-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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31 Oct 2002 16:15 PST
Expires: 30 Nov 2002 16:15 PST Question ID: 94782 |
Are there any right angles or natural grids in nature? |
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Re: Natural Grids in Nature
From: pinkfreud-ga on 31 Oct 2002 16:35 PST |
Do crystals count as "nature?" |
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Re: Natural Grids in Nature
From: unstable-ga on 31 Oct 2002 17:16 PST |
In theory, as the atom carbon is capable of forming 4 bonds with 4 other atoms, so to get the best arrangement to achieve a widest distance between all the atoms is to achieve a 90 degrees angle between the bonds on a planar axis, am not sure if this answers what u are looking 4. |
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Re: Natural Grids in Nature
From: nellie_bly-ga on 31 Oct 2002 20:40 PST |
Many plants have right angled growth patterns -- complex leaves or branches on trees. Here are some sites where you can explore patterns in nature. Patterns in nature http://www.uen.org/themepark/html/patterns/naturepatterns.html http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/sirrobhitch.suffolk/patterns_nature/ Photos of patterns in nature http://www.californiapictures.com/naturepatterns.html ff.lakeheadu.ca/~emp/photos/patterns.html http://www.nhpa.co.uk/nhpa/az123/az123.htm some awesome ice photos http://members.aol.com/drhaw/patterns.html |
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Re: Natural Grids in Nature
From: mzhammer-ga on 01 Nov 2002 05:58 PST |
Actually, the 4 bonds in a carbon atom take place in 3-D space, so they are at 109.5 degrees rather than 90 degrees in a methane molecule (check out http://www.education.eth.net/acads/chemistry/carbon_bonds-I.htm as well as http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Anthology/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/lessons/trig/bonds.html). For more complex and asymmetric (and less odorous) molecules, the angles may not all be equal. |
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Re: Natural Grids in Nature
From: alan0-ga on 01 Nov 2002 08:26 PST |
There are some grids in nature caused by crystalline growth and similar behaviours. For example the Giants Causeway in Ireland: see http://www.giantscausewayofficialguide.com/welcome.htm. Also what about Snowflakes? |
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Re: Natural Grids in Nature
From: boojum-ga on 01 Nov 2002 12:42 PST |
The mineral galena (lead sulfide) has a nice cubic structure. That's not it's only crytal structure, but it's easy to recognize in the cubic form. |
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Re: Natural Grids in Nature
From: aeronaut-ga on 02 Nov 2002 22:59 PST |
There are absolutely natural grids in nature. Even ones that are visible on scales that we deal with every day. For example, in my research, we take small brass spheres, put them in a flat dish like cell, and shake them up and down. When the peak acceleration is around 3-4 times that of gravity, we get a pattern called squares. It literally looks like a waffle in the cell. And these squares will occur in round cells or cells of any shape (although the squares do try to make themselves perpendicular to the walls.) They are typically 2-3 cm across, but since they are in the period doubled regime, they appear 1-1.5 cm across (the eye can't resolve the two peaks separately, so you see them both. If you are interested further in these patterns, there is a rich set of technical literature deacribing them. E-mail me for references or other information. Regards, Martin Melhus (aeronaut) |
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Re: Natural Grids in Nature
From: flajason-ga on 04 Nov 2002 14:19 PST |
Of course, bees make honeycomb (natural hexagon grid). Spiders make very intricate grids with their webs. Nature tends to stick with whatever works best. In cases where a right angle or grid is the most functional formation, that's what nature will go with. In the animal and plant world, right angles do exist, but seem to be the exception rather than the rule. If you think about it, right angles are not always the most effective structure for support in nature. For us humans, it works great for buildings. To support the roof over our heads, a right angle is perfect since it takes most of the force directly into the ground. But of course, a building is stationary. It isn't subject to a lot of lateral force save perhaps for wind. Nature, however, tends to a bit more rough. Having joints at an angle allows for greater flexibility to accomodate varying stress. Grids, by which I am interpreting regular patterns, are much more common. The Fibbonaci (spelling?) series is a classic example of methematical patterns in nature, especially in plant life. |
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