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Anonymous e-mail svc resistent to key loggers
Category: Business and Money Asked by: brianweebrain-ga List Price: $25.00 |
Posted:
02 Nov 2002 20:38 PST
Expires: 02 Dec 2002 20:38 PST Question ID: 97028 |
I frequently access my current web based email account from cyber cafes and am concerned about their PC's being infected with key logger trojan viruses. With such a trojan a hacker could access my ID and passcode. I am looking for a recomendation for a secure email service resistent to key logging AND accessible via a proxy (no java script) for anonymous access too. E-mail service cost is not an issue. |
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Re: Anonymous e-mail svc resistent to key loggers
From: funkywizard-ga on 02 Nov 2002 20:42 PST |
i cannot think of a way you get pick an email service provider that would be resistant to keylogging, unless you actually didnt use a typed user name and password. I know of no such services. The best thing would be to make sure the computer you are at does not have a keylogger but this is no easy task. Furthermore, even if the system does not have a *software* keylogger, it is always possible for an individual to install a hardware keylogger that sits between the keyboard and the pc, which would not be detectable through any software means. |
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Re: Anonymous e-mail svc resistent to key loggers
From: skbenja-ga on 02 Nov 2002 20:57 PST |
While the previous commenter is correct, there is a workaround that might go something like this: These workarounds will work against ANY hardware or software keylogger UNLESS: -- it is taking screenshots -- which is HIGHLY unlikely -- or reading the clipboard data, but this also is HIGHLY unlikely -- but NOT impossible OPTION ONE: Windows Character Map 1. Run the application called CHARMAP on a windows machine: -- Click on the start menu, Run, type in CHARMAP and click OK -- In Internet Explorer, click File/Open. Navigate to C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32, locate CHARMAP.EXE, RIGHT click on this and select "OPEN" -- Press Control+Alt+Delete on any Windows NT, 2000, or XP machine and try to launch the task manager, from this you can launch CHARMAP using the run option -- Change the font option in the left-top corner to something typical like "Arial" instead of the default symbol. 2. Key in your password by clicking on the appropriate letters, and as they appear in the formbox in the right top corner, copy them to the clipboard using the copy button. 3. Paste in the input form box the webmail site by pressing control + v while it has focus. OPTION TWO: 1. Go to http://babelfish.altavista.com/, click "World Keyboard" link 2. type in your password by using this java keyboard 3. copy to the clipboard by selecting text with your mouse and pressing the control + c combination. 4. in the form input box on your webmail's site, press control + v to paste the password. |
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Re: Anonymous e-mail svc resistent to key loggers
From: ephraim-ga on 02 Nov 2002 21:02 PST |
Just a quick comment here -- If the keylogger is a piece of hardware placed between the keyboard and the computer, there's absolutely nothing your online service can do to prevent it from capturing all your keystrokes. If somebody is truly interested in obtaining your keystrokes, and you sit in front of a computer that the snooper has had physical access to, there's not much you can do. Just as e-mail software can't detect whether or not a spy with binoculars is staring at your fingers from 100 feet away, it also can't detect hardware (or software) that a knowledgeable hacker has placed on the machine. If the only thing you care about is your password and not the other data you're sending via keystrokes, then you may have options available. It *is* possible to obtain equipment and software which expire a password after a single use, so that it's useless to the hacker who discovers it. /ephraim |
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Re: Anonymous e-mail svc resistent to key loggers
From: snapanswer-ga on 02 Nov 2002 21:06 PST |
I can't think of any services that would meet your needs. Another thought along the same suggestions as skbenja. Whether it works or not would depend upon how advanced the key logger is. Open WordPad. Type three or more long lines of text. (Whether you have the lines of text make sense or not is up to you, and depends upon how random your password is). Include in the text your username and password (or just your password). Then, when you login, copy and paste the text you need from WordPad, rather than typing it directly into the web interface. |
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Re: Anonymous e-mail svc resistent to key loggers
From: mvguy-ga on 02 Nov 2002 22:25 PST |
One approach would be a system that changes passwords automatically. I'm not sure if this company's services would meet your needs, but it's worth a look: http://www.mxtreme.com/ |
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Re: Anonymous e-mail svc resistent to key loggers
From: justin_a_parr-ga on 02 Nov 2002 23:22 PST |
With Win2K you can run OSK (On Screen Keyboard). This will completely obfuscate key logging. To obfuscate mouse capture, use the mouse to drag the "On-Screen Keyboard" title bar (and window) to a random location on the screen. Since mouse logging relies on reverse-engineering coordinates relative to a window or to the screen, this will be very difficult or impossible to do. I do not know which other OSs support OSK -- perhaps others can contribute this. I would assume XP does, but that '98 / ME does not -- this is an assumption. |
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Re: Anonymous e-mail svc resistent to key loggers
From: justin_a_parr-ga on 02 Nov 2002 23:25 PST |
FYI - most internet cafes, schools, libraries, and some companies, etc... will not let you access the "RUN" box. To bypass this, just type the following URL in to Internet Explorer: [ file://c:/winnt/system32/osk.exe ] |
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