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Puzzling Medical Condition?
Category: Health > Conditions and Diseases Asked by: cal123-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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03 Nov 2002 01:52 PST
Expires: 03 Dec 2002 01:52 PST Question ID: 97167 |
Please help. I am totally mystified by this. For the last 3 days I have been emitting a black, fine, tar-like residue from my skin-primarily around the upper torso and armpit area. It is much like newsprint residue one might find on their hands after reading the morning paper. There is no odor evident. I can take a baby wipe, rub my chest with it, and the result will be prominent black streaks. I took a bath and even left a black smudgy stain on the porcelain! I wore a white tee shirt to play tennis and it was stained black. The stain will not come out. Today, I noticed that my sheets were stained black around the area where my back rests against them. This is just plain weird. I am a 45 year old caucasion male and in perfect health. I just had a complete physical. I play competitive tennis and have never smoked cigarettes--only a cigar and pipe occasionally. I shower every day, of course. The only thing I can think of is that my girlfriend gave me some detoxifying bath salts to use last week. I only used them once--is this reaction possible? Where is this pitch-black residue coming from? Poisons from my own body!? I work from my home, so I'm not in a contributing environment--like working as a roofer or something. I can find no mention of this condition on the Internet. Am I in any danger? When will this unpleasant experience end? Any ideas would be helpful...thanks. |
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Re: Puzzling Medical Condition?
Answered By: rbnn-ga on 03 Nov 2002 08:23 PST Rated: |
Thank you for your question. I am normally hesitant to answer medical questions here, since I am not a doctor, and am not qualified to provide medical advice. In any case you should not use this answer as a substitute for medical advice. Your question was intriguing, however, and I did forward it to a doctor. He mentioned that one condition that you may want to ask your doctor to investigate is alkaptonuria, and he provided this information about the disease: Alkaptonuria facts ------------------ Alkaptonuria is an autosomal recessive disorder that results from deficient activity of homogentisic acid dioxygenase (HGD), an enzyme in tyrosine degradation. It was first described by Garrod in 1902. HGD deficiency results in elevated levels of homogentisic acid (HGA) which causes ochronosis, the deposition of dark pigment in connective tissue. Patients usually are asymptomatic in childhood. In adulthood, patients may have deposits of dark pigment in the ear cartilage and sclerae (whites of the eye). Additional pigment is deposited in the large joints and the spine, especially the lumbosacral region. Calcification of multiple intervertebral discs is a characteristic radiographic finding. This may lead to arthritis which is often misdiagnosed as rheumatoid arthritis, osteoarthritis or ankylosing spondylitis. Axillary and inguinal areas may have a brown or black discoloration. Perspiration can stain clothing. The disorder is characterized by the excretion of urine that appears normal when fresh, but turns dark brown or black if left standing. The dark color is caused by oxidation of homogentisic acid. Levels of HGA are increased in blood, urine, and tissue samples. The diagnosis is confirmed by measurement of HGA in urine. Dietary restriction of tyrosine and phenylalanine will reduce the excretion of HGA, although the clinical effect is unknown. Ascorbic acid in large doses may be given but its efficacy in large series of patients is unknown[1]. Patients with alkaptonuria tend to have a normal lifespan and die of causes similar to the general population. [1] Wolff JA, et al., Effects of ascorbic acid in alkaptonuria: alterations in benzoquinone acetic acid and an ontogenic effect in infancy. Pediatr Res 1989 Aug;26(2):140-4. Related links: -------------- Alkaptonuria: at http://www.emedicine.com/ped/topic64.htm Alkaptonuria and Ochronosis: at http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/921733488.html Alkaptonuria at the Health Cyclopedia, http://www.healthcyclopedia.com/alkaptonuria.html Search Strategy: --------------- I asked a doctor who is good at identifying rare diseases. He searched on alkaptonuria . Disclaimer: ---------- Once again, this answer is NOT A SUBSTITUTE for examination by a medical professional. If you have any questions about this answer, please use the "Request Clarification" button to solicit clarification or additional information. | |
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Re: Puzzling Medical Condition?
From: researcher7-ga on 03 Nov 2002 09:17 PST |
I found this question to be very interesting and I waited for the answer to be posted. As a biochemist, I find the above answer to be well researched and well communicated. I do have a few questions of my own, however. You have stated that your health is excellent. Are you never-the-less taking any medications? Some meds and/or their metabolic products could be excreted in your sweat and based on the pH of your sweat or other bodily fluids , cause a colorless metabolite to become pigmented. In addition to the above observations on pigmentation, have you noticed any change in color or appearance of your urine? Such changes might also be the result of end product metabolites from ingested foods or medications. Stay well and let us know how things are going. |
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Re: Puzzling Medical Condition?
From: fsw-ga on 03 Nov 2002 09:35 PST |
Hi Cal, I did a little research on this for you earlier this morning. It looks like you have a fine answer. Please don't consider my comment to be a criticism of rbnn's answer! Having said that, based on my research, it's possible that you have a fungal or bacterial infection from whatever was in your bath salts. Portions of your skin or some of your hair follicles my be infected. In any case, I wish you a speedy recovery and I hope you will see a physician soon. fsw |
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Re: Puzzling Medical Condition?
From: cal123-ga on 04 Nov 2002 13:57 PST |
Thank you all for your excellent (and rapid) response. I'm checking into all that was recommended. To answer one question, no, I'm taking no medication whatsoever. Strange thing though, this morning (Monday), there has been no staining. I slept in a white tee-shirt to see if there would be the usual "black newsprint" stains apparent on my back and under arm area, but this morning was clean. I'm beginning to think I had some temporary reaction to the detoxifying bath salts--but to have pitch black sweat emit from my pores--that's just too bizarre. My tennis whites from Friday are ruined, the stains won't come out. I'll be seeing a doctor next week just in case. Thanks again. Cal |
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Re: Puzzling Medical Condition?
From: rbnn-ga on 04 Nov 2002 16:03 PST |
I'm curious too what it will be. Apparently alkaptonuria is so obscure and difficult to diagnose though that it was once presented as a puzzle in New England Journal of Medicine - and only 40 doctors in the country could diagnose it! |
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Re: Puzzling Medical Condition?
From: danooch-ga on 04 Nov 2002 16:32 PST |
I recently had a very similar experience, but it only affected my fingernails, and only at the tips grown out beyond the nailbed. I could not wash it off, looked like newsprint. lasted about a month. my legs also left a dark bluish-black stain on the toiletseat that won't wash off to this day. I suppose it might've been due to one of the cat scan medications taken for a recent liver scan slowly working it's way out of my system. very bizarre. maybe he should have his liver checked. |
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Re: Puzzling Medical Condition?
From: cal123-ga on 05 Nov 2002 03:15 PST |
Hello and thanks again, Rbnn-ga--I especially appreciate your continued interest. This is now day 6 and the last 2 days have been stain-free. I took the advice of your forwarded doctor "The (Alkaptonuria) disorder is characterized by the excretion of urine that appears normal when fresh, but turns dark brown or black if left standing. The dark color is caused by oxidation of homogentisic acid." I left a urine sample standing for 24 hours and it did not change color. Then, earlier today, I once again bathed in the detoxifying bath salts--to see if that was the cause, but I now appear normal. So I guess is wasn't some chemical reaction to them. I am not crazy. My girlfirend witnessed this very disturbing phenomenom, and has now taken to calling me ALF. Very funny. I'm keeping my soiled clothes to give to a doctor next week, and truly hope there is an answer to this. Now I'm thinking it's a metabolic issue as offered be researcher7-ga (maybe I'm too acidic vs. alkaline). I have no clue. I haven't even had a cold in over 6 years... |
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