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Source of quote by famous Psychiatrist
Category: Science > Social Sciences Asked by: krakowski-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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03 Nov 2002 08:39 PST
Expires: 03 Dec 2002 08:39 PST Question ID: 97312 |
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Re: Source of quote by famous Psychiatrist
Answered By: nellie_bly-ga on 11 Nov 2002 22:03 PST Rated: |
Sullivan, H. S. (1954). The Psychiatric Interview. New York: Norton. p. 5-6. "Perhaps in all too many cases they [schizophrenics] are full of ancient traditional hokum from the culture about the eyes being the windows of the soul, and things being seen in them that might not otherwise be revealed -- which seems to be one of the most misguided ideas I've ever known." The Norton edition is a paperback reprint |
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Perfect response. I've been asking this question on psych newsgroup, and asked several psychologists/psychiatrists and none could recall the source. Without this exact referrence, I would be unable to use it in a paper that might get published. Thank you. Jerry Krakowski |
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Re: Source of quote by famous Psychiatrist
From: tar_heel_v-ga on 03 Nov 2002 08:59 PST |
Krakowski.. You are looking for one those sayings that people want to know, but nobody really does. In researching your question, I found the source as "unknown" numerous times. Some attribute it to Roman philospher, Cicero, but no reference to the source or the citation. I have found some references the proper citation as "The eyes are the windows to the soul; if you look into them long enough, one's true self is revealed." by Nicole Dawson, though I have not been able to find the source or even who Nicole Dawson is. I am posting this as a comment until I can further validate the information. Regards, -THV |
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Re: Source of quote by famous Psychiatrist
From: markj-ga on 10 Nov 2002 19:22 PST |
"To thee I do commend my watchful soul, Ere I let fall the windows of mine eyes." "King Richard III," William Shakespeare, Act V, Sc.3, Line 117 (1592-93). Add this to the lost list of metaphors that Shakespeare may have come up with before anyone else. markj-ga |
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Re: Source of quote by famous Psychiatrist
From: markj-ga on 11 Nov 2002 05:55 PST |
I meant "long list of metaphors." Sorry. markj-ga |
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Re: Source of quote by famous Psychiatrist
From: nellie_bly-ga on 11 Nov 2002 22:07 PST |
Just because it's interesting -- This from my academic friend who eventually supplied the answer. "My first reaction is "no way!" John Donne, maybe, but Harry Stack Sullivan???!!! If I had had to guess, I would have guessed Shakespeare and that he stole it. I would guess Homer, but windows weren't that popular back then. In short, Harry Stack Sullivan sounds way too recent. The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations has Blake: "This life's five windows of the soul/Distorts the Heavens from pole to pole." So, if Harry Stack Sullivan said it, he got the basic metaphor from Blake. Now, as to whether Blake was alluding to a prior use of the metaphor, or whether the specifics of the eyes as one of the five senses came after Blake, that Oxford can't tell us. On to Bartlett's. Holy Cow! I was right!! Shakespeare said it, AND he stole it. At least according to Bartlett's. In chronological order, we have: Guilliaume de Salluste, Seigneur Du Bartas (1544-1590): "These lovely lamps, these windows of the soul." (Divine Weeks and Works, 1578, Sixth Day). [Bartlett's footnotes the above with Shakespeare's "The windows of mine eyes" (Richard III, Act V, sc. iii, l. 117).] William Blake (1757-1827): "This life's dim windows of the soul/Distorts the heavens from pole to pole." (The Everlasting Gospel, c1818, sec. 5, l. 101). [No accounting for the difference in wording between Oxford and Bartlett's. Oxford has sec. d, l.103] John Greenleaf Whittier (1807-1892): "The windows of my soul I throw/Wide open to the sun." (My Psalm, st. 9). |
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