I am seeking the name and contact addresses of manufacturers of wine
bottles that are produced in the shape of a lobster. |
Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
03 Nov 2002 18:56 PST
Hello brudenell-ga,
I located the winery that makes wine in lobster shaped bottles.
Would the name of the winery and the contact information suffice as an answer.
Thanks!
--Bobbie7-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 07:52 PST
Hello again,
I sent an e-mail inquiring about the wine bottle you require.
I will let you know as soon as they respond.
Thanks
--Bobbie7-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 10:01 PST
Hello brudenell-ga,
I located the winery that makes wine in lobster shaped bottles.
Chatham Winery
Route 28, The Cornfield,
Chatham, MA 02633
Phone: (508) 945-0300
“Located upstairs at the Cornfield, Chatham Winery offers tastings of
its unusual fruit and flower-based wines, such as cranberry mead, red
currant and belle of Georgia peach, an award-winning dessert wine.
Their popular Midnight Blue, a $9 blend of red grapes and blueberries
in a cobalt blue bottle, won a silver medal in an international wine
competition in Toronto. The Chatham blush comes in a bottle shaped
like a lobster. Owners Glenn and Susan Smith-Elion price their 30
wines in the $7 to $10 range.”
Getaway Guides Website
http://www.getawayguides.com/massachusetts/capecod/diversions.htm
I sent out a number of e-mails to glass bottle manufacturers and
unfortunately they do not make those wine bottles.
Demptos
We do not produce this bottle. Good luck with your search. You may
want to go to the internet and look up Vetri Bruni from Italy. They
seem to make these types of bottles.
Vitro Packaging
We do not manufacture any bottle in the shape of an actual lobster.
We offer a variety of different molds in our stock program, but they
are all in classic silhouettes.
Perhaps if you call the Chatham Winery they may be able to give you
more information. I did not pursue the Vetri Bruni from Italy lead as
I don't know if you wish to import the bottles.
Best Regards,
Bobbie7-ga
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 13:09 PST
Thank you Bobbie7-ga for your efforts. I feel that we are getting
close. Let's wait a day or so to see if Chatham Winery responds to
your request. If they do not I will call them myself. Thank you very
much for your efforts so far!
Very appreciate & best regards
Brudenell
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 13:20 PST
Hi again,
I do not have the e-mail address of Chatham Winery, only the phone
number which I posted above. I sent out 3 e-mail inquires to 3
different bottle manufacturers and only 2 have responded. Perhaps you
should call the Chatham Winery as I don't live in the U.S.
Thank you
--Bobbie7-ga
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 13:44 PST
Hello Bobbie7-ga
Thank you for the quick reply.
I am not in the US either!
I'll call now...
And here is the result: Chatham Winery is no longer in business. The
phone call was answered by a congenial restaurant owner who now has
the number. He stated that the winery has been out of business for 3 -
4 years. He did know however about the lobster bottles. Unfortunately
he did not know where to find them today other than on eBay.
The search continues
Thanks for your assistance & interest in my question
Brudenell
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 13:47 PST
Maybe if someone can track down the former Chatham Winery owners Glenn
and Susan Smith-Elion they could shed light as to the source of their
former supply of lobster bottles.
Brudenell
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 14:19 PST
Hi Brudenell,
I located a manufacturer of custom made glass products.
"Glass Products
JAJA Group Gift and Household Division offers a full range of high
quality Glass products manufactured to your specifications."
http://www.jajagroup.com/GiftNHousehold/glass.htm
They do not sell 1 or 2 pieces. They will ship anywhere in the world.
To request a quote or more information about a specific product,
please fill out the following form. I wanted to ask for the
information myself but it would be better if you do so, as they ask
for product quantity and specifications.
http://www.jajagroup.com/GiftNHousehold/inforeq.htm
Please let me know asI will continue my search for these lobster
shaped bottles.
Best Regards,
--Bobbie7-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 14:20 PST
I forgot to give you their contact information.
JAJA Group, Inc.
9048 Spindletree Way
Jacksonville FL 32256 USA
Phone: +1 904.519.0050
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 15:47 PST
Hello Again Bobbie7-ga
I will contact JAJA Group.
Let us see where that lead takes us...
Thanks Again
Brudenell
PS Which country are you in?
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 17:11 PST
I am located in South America.
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 17:21 PST
Hmmm... South America- isn't that a continent? I'm in Prince Edward
Island, Canada- home to a wonderful lobster industry.
Do you know of any way to locate the former owners of the winery?
Best Regards
Brudenell
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 17:26 PST
Hello,
I did do a search looking for any business contact information of the
former owners without any luck. Regarding their personal information,
Google Researchers are not allowed to give out personal information of
individuals.
(Yes South America is a continent,I live in Chile}
Best Regards,
--Bobbie7-ga
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
04 Nov 2002 17:35 PST
Good Evening Bobbie7-ga
You're quick with the replies!
I do realize that Google Answers do not permit access to personal
information. I thought that this could lead in some way to our sought
after answer.
Chili! I just enjoyed a 'Cornellana' Cabernet Sauvignon- Merlot with
supper.
Thank you for your continued efforts.
Regards
Brudenell
PS: I have emailled JAJA Group.
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 06:36 PST
I sent an e-mail inquiry to Saint Gobain. They are a large
manufacturer of glass containers and wine bottles.
Saint Gobain Container
24441 Avenue 12
Madera, CA 93637
Telephone (559) 675-4700
Fax (559) 675-4729
http://www.sgcontainers.com/our_products/stock_by_type/directdoc.htm
Regards,
--Bobbie7-ga
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 07:01 PST
Good Morning Bobbie7-ga
I look forward to the results of your email.
Thank you for continuing the search for the elusive 'lobster' bottle.
Regards
Brudenell
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 09:32 PST
Good afternoon Bludenell,
This is what I have for today.
In an article at the Packaging Digest website they mention that Anchor
Glass made the glass bottles with a handle for Kahlúa iced coffee
drink.
“Continuing the premium and unique appearance of the package, the
15.5-oz glass bottles on which the shrink-sleeve labels are applied
are custom-made to reinforce the coffee concept. "We figured that
every coffee cup ought to have a handle on it," says Balboni, "so we
designed a package with a handle. And then we used amber glass to tie
the package back to the coffee‹the look of the beverage." Supplied by
Anchor Glass, the bottles are similar to those used for Blue Luna Café
Latte”
http://www.packagingdigest.com/articles/200104/72.html
This is what it says at the Anchor Glass Container Corp Website:
“We have received numerous awards for bottle and package design.”
http://www.anchorglass.com/main.htm
I sent an e-mail inquiring for the bottles:
marketing@anchorglass.com
This is what Lissa McLaughlin responded.
“Thank you for your inquiry with Anchor Glass Container.
I am sorry - we do not make anything like that.
You may try the following wine distributor - Waterloo Container they
are located in Waterloo , NY
You can contact them at (315) 539-3922 - Roberta Parmalee.
Good luck with your project.
Regards,
Anchor Glass Container Corporation"
I suggest you cal Roberta Parmalee. I believe that we are getting
closer.
Best Regards,
--Bobbie7-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 09:33 PST
Sorry, I meant to write Brudenell, not Bludenell.
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 10:41 PST
Good Afternoon Bobbie7
Just received the following reply from JAJA:
Thanks for your inquiry!
Re lobster shape glass bottle, if you can send me a drawing marked
with
specifications, details and also tell me the close port to you, I'll
be
able to quote you a price.
As you know that we are a custom manufacturer in overseas. You can get
a
big advantage on the price if the quantity is big. Since your quantity
is so small, all kinds of middle service fee, such as inland and ocean
freight, the custom broker fee, the customs bounded warehouse in and
out
fee, the harbor fee and customs processing fee,....etc averaged to
each
pc will be very high. If you don't worry about the cost, we'll be more
than happy to be a stable manufacturer for you. Please let me know
your
decision.
You can reach me at this address or at jun4813@bigplanet.com
Sincerely,
Jun Tang
JAJA Group, Inc.
As you can see they do not have such an item in stock but can
manufacture if the quantity makes sense.
I prefer to continue the search for an existing stock.
Thank you for your lead I will contact Roberta Parmalee
I will post later as soon as I am in touch
Regards
Brudenell
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 10:58 PST
Attn Bobbie7
Just spoke to Roberta and she does not have such a bottle. She did
know of them however as they tried unsuccessfully to acquire the mold
a few years ago. The mold owners were private and a deal could not be
struck. She said a company known as Wheaton, that usually specialized
in pharmaceutical glass products, did make the original stock of
'lobster' bottles. There was a subsequent lawsuit over the bottles.
She then said that a company on the east coast of the US: Carr Lowery
may know of the 'lobster' bottle issue. I am trying to get a number
for Carr Lowery.
And this is the latest in the search...
Hope you are having better luck
Regards
Brudenell
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 11:07 PST
Hi!
I think we are doing great in this search.
The Carl Lowrey Glassworks Website is then following.
http://www.carrlowrey.com/
Here is their contact information:
2201 Kloman Street
P.O. Box 356
Baltimore, MD 21203
Phone: 410-347-8800
888-848-1500
Fax:410-347-8864
E-mail: glassworks@carrlowrey.com
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 11:15 PST
Perhaps if you contact Wheaton Glass they may be able to offer more information:
Wheaton Glass
1101 Wheaton Ave.
Milville, NJ 08332 USA
Tel: 856/825-0400
Fax: 856/293-0863
E-mail: laura.heaton@wheaton.com
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 12:00 PST
Bobbie7
We are close!!
My phone call ended up at The Glass Group who are purchasing a
division of Wheaton.
Wheaton Glass made the lobster bottle!
The individuals who would know the particulars were not available at
the time of my call.Their names: Product development- Bob O'Donnell
and a Bruce Pierce.
I am now trying to get the email addresses of those two men.
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 12:02 PST
Bludenell,
That's great news!!!
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 12:23 PST
Hi again,
I was not able to locate an e-mail address for either Bob O'Donnell or
Bruce Pierce. I sent an e-mail to the Glass Group asking for that
information.
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 14:52 PST
Good Evening Bobbie7
Thank you for your continued efforts.
I obtained some email addresses from the person who answered the 'The
Glass Group' telephone however my contacts to the Wheaton addresses
received were returned by 'system administrator'. I subsequently found
that Wheaton is owned by Alcan. By looking at the 'contact' addresses
given for Alcan's various divisions I see that everyone has an Alcan
address. I resent my requests to the two men using an Alcan.com
suffix. So far they have not been returned by 'system administrator'.
Should contact not be established by email I will reattempt by
telephone through Wheaton tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed!
Brudenell
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 15:17 PST
Hello Brudenell,
Here is a handy tool to use to verify an e-mail address.
http://www.searchbug.com/peoplefinder/verifyemail.aspx
"This tool will check validity of E-Mail Address by communicating with
the Mail Server in a real time. Most Mail Servers are configured to
reject messages addressed to non-existing accounts. However, some
servers will simply ignore such messages and return no errors. That's
why sometimes you may get a 'Valid Account' response to a clearly
invalid e-mail address."
I suggest you enter the e-mail address of Bob O'Donnell and Bruce
Pierce with the Alcan suffix into this e-mail verifier.
I haven't received any new responses this afternoon to my e-mail
inquiries, but I'm sure we'll have good news tomorrow. (My fingers are
crossed)
Until then,
--Bobbie7-ga
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
06 Nov 2002 04:24 PST
Good Morning Bobbie7
Thank you for 'Search Bug'.
I entered the email addresses that I sent to Alcan. They worked.
(Somehow I think you already knew that they would!)
Now we wait.
Today may be the day
Brudenell
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
06 Nov 2002 05:36 PST
Good Morning Brudenell,
The e-mail I sent to the Glass Group yesterday came back twice, so I
verified it in the search bug.
Short story: The search bug doesn't seem to be working properly now.
Other than that, I have no new updates.
Regards,
--Bobbie7-ga
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
06 Nov 2002 06:10 PST
Bobbie7
Thanks for trying. Still no email replies in my 'inbox'... and no
'System Administrator' messages either. And now we wait...
Have a great day!
Brudenell
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
06 Nov 2002 08:38 PST
Brudenell,
I just received the follwing e-mail from Brad from Saint Gobain:
"Thank you for your interest in Saint-Gobain Containers. We have a
distributor that we sell our wine bottles through in the East. The
name of
the company is Waterloo Container. You can contact them at
315-539-3922."
1-888-539-3922
I am not very optimistic with this lead but I did send an e-mail
message to them as well asking about the lobster shaped wine bottles.
Will let you know when they respond.
Regards,
--Bobbie7-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
06 Nov 2002 09:29 PST
I just realized that you hvae already contacted Waterloo.
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
06 Nov 2002 11:52 PST
Bobbie7
The emails worked! We have replies:
1)Yes, we did produce a Lobster Wine Bottle. However this item was a
private mold for Chattam Winery. The company and owner got into some
serious fraud problems, and as far as I know assets were tied up in
court
battles. It is my understanding that the tool is not available to
anyone
other than Chattam at this time. BOBOD
I went back with a subsequent request:
Thank you very much for the reply.
I have been searching everywhere for an existing supply of 'lobster'
bottles. I am assuming that it would be prohibitive to produce a new
mold
etc.
Do you or your colleagues in the glass world have any knowledge of a
source?
And this was Bob O'Donnell's reply:
2) It is my understanding that this is the only existing tool for a
Lobster
wine bottle. I have seen fish bottles, but no other Lobster. As to
prohibitive to produce a new mold, that is relative. I would estimate
a
cost of about $30,000 in development costs and tooling charges to
develop
and produce a tool. My initial guess on bottle costs would be about
$1.00
each in the 100,000 lot range.
So...
We found the supplier but no bottles.
I am replying to Bob asking if he has any idea where the bottles ended
up Ie. if there is unused stock sitting in a wharehouse somewhere
awaiting legal resolution.
The search continues.
Regards
Brudenell
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
06 Nov 2002 12:19 PST
Brudenell,
Waterloo answered the following:
"You can try Carr Lowery @ 732-323-8355 or a company called
Wheaton Glass.They maybe one and the same by now. One of them has the
lobster mould.I believe it is a private mould.
Mould costs for something unique like this would run you about
$65,000. The minimum run would be 4 days @ 5 loads per day.
Average 40,000 cases of 12 pack.
Feel free to call if you have any questions
Regards,(Roberta Parmelee)
Waterloo Container Co.
Waterloo NY 13165
888-539-3922"
Well the prices are extremely elevated so I also hope there is a
leftover stock of bottles somewhere.
Regards,
Bobbie7-ga
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
07 Nov 2002 09:29 PST
Bobbie7
A reply was received from Bob O'Donnell:
As far as I know all bottles were shipped to Chatham Winery on Cape
Cod. If
there are unused bottles there I have no idea. BOBOD
Now I feel the only avenues for success on the trail of the former
Chatham Winery stock/ assets etc. are 1) a search of court generated
auctions etc., sherriff sales, in and around Cape Cod. and 2)finding
the former owners Glenn and Susan Smith-Elion and asking them what
happened.
Now without violating Google Answer rules I wonder what the best way
to find #2
Regards
Brudenell
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
07 Nov 2002 09:40 PST
Hi Brudenell,
I’m going to be a bit busy today as I have my daughters college
graduation ceremony this evening.
However if I think of anything I’ll get back to you late tonight or
tomorrow morning.
Regards,
Bobbie7-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
08 Nov 2002 06:33 PST
Hell Brudenell,
I have a new lead.
To be on the safe side I have sent an e-mail to the editors here at
Google asking them if I wouldn't be breaking any rules in posting that
information.
I'll get back to you as soon as they respond.
Best regards,
Bobbie7-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
08 Nov 2002 09:25 PST
Hello again,
I just got the go ahead from the editors to post the information I
have.
Here is a short excerpt from a 1998 article in the Cap Cod Times
“Chatham fares well in national contest” by Robin Lord:
“Others on the Chatham team were: Justin Alex, Charles Cummings,
Brendan Gallagher, Angela Pickard, Riley Pike, Brendan Smith-Elion,
Andrew Storey, Jennifer Swenson and Luisa Blanchfield.”
Source. Cape Cod Times
http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/archives/1998/may98/5_7_98/chat7.htm
Ludicrous Productions is a production company for hire. They produce
digital features and shorts. They take your script through
preproduction, production, post, and even through DVD authoring.
Source: Ludicrous Productions
http://www.ludicrousproductions.com/services.html
Brendan Smith-Elion is Production Manager/Special Effects Editor for
the movie Il Trucco and the contact information for him and the rest
of his crew can be found here at the Ludicrous Productions website:
Source: Ludicrous Productions
http://www.ludicrousproductions.com/IlTrucco.html
Brendan Smith-Elion may be able to give you information about Chatham
Winery and the lobster shaped wine bottles you are seeking.
Best Regards,
Bobbie7
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
08 Nov 2002 14:25 PST
Good Evening Bobbie7
This has been a busy day and I've been away from my computer.
Thank you for the new lead.
I too did a search under the Smith-Elion name and came across the
article. The family name is rather unique and I am contacting:
brendan@brendansmithelion.com
Also I came across some mailing addresses for the Chatham Market that
I may check out if the emailing doesn't work.
I'll let you know the results
Thanks again for the new leads
Regards
Brudenell
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
10 Nov 2002 08:29 PST
Hello Brudenell,
Any question that includes the word "Google" gets locked automatically
until the editors have a chance to see it. If it's a question that a
researcher can answer they unlock it.
Regards,
Bobbie7-ga
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Clarification of Question by
brudenell-ga
on
10 Nov 2002 08:40 PST
Thank you Bobbie7
You're fast!
I really owe you now.
Thank you again for your help.
Still no word in the Inbox re: lobster
Regards
Brudenell
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