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4-20 milliamp circuits
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: rayram-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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03 Nov 2002 11:46 PST
Expires: 03 Dec 2002 11:46 PST Question ID: 97430 |
The most common current signal standard in modern use is the 4 to 20 milliamp (4-20 mA) loop, with 4 milliamps representing 0 percent of measurement, 20 milliamps representing 100 percent, 12 milliamps representing 50 percent, and so on. A convenient feature of the 4-20 mA standard is its ease of signal conversion to 1-5 volt indicating instruments. A simple 250 ohm precision resistor connected in series with the circuit will produce 1 volt of drop at 4 milliamps, 5 volts of drop at 20 milliamps, etc: Instrumentation is a field of study and work centering on measurement and control of physical processes. These physical processes include pressure, temperature, flow rate, and chemical consistency. An instrument is a device that measures and/or acts to control any kind of physical process. Due to the fact that electrical quantities of voltage and current are easy to measure, manipulate, and transmit over long distances, they are widely used to represent such physical variables and transmit the information to remote locations. With this in mind can you show me how to make some measurments? And how to make a math formula using the 4-20 milliamp scale with pressure, temperature, flow rate, and chemical consistency such as ph level? ---------------------------------------- | Percent of | 4-20 mA | 1-5 V | | measurement | signal | signal | ---------------------------------------- | 0 | 4.0 mA | 1.0 V | ---------------------------------------- | 10 | 5.6 mA | 1.4 V | ---------------------------------------- | 20 | 7.2 mA | 1.8 V | ---------------------------------------- | 25 | 8.0 mA | 2.0 V | ---------------------------------------- | 30 | 8.8 mA | 2.2 V | ---------------------------------------- | 40 | 10.4 mA | 2.6 V | ---------------------------------------- | 50 | 12.0 mA | 3.0 V | ---------------------------------------- | 60 | 13.6 mA | 3.4 V | ---------------------------------------- | 70 | 15.2 mA | 3.8 V | ---------------------------------------- | 75 | 16.0 mA | 4.0 V | --------------------------------------- | 80 | 16.8 mA | 4.2 V | ---------------------------------------- | 90 | 18.4 mA | 4.6 V | ---------------------------------------- | 100 | 20.0 mA | 5.0 V | ---------------------------------------- |
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Re: 4-20 milliamp circuits
From: mike1138-ga on 03 Nov 2002 13:44 PST |
You have a very good start here. I am not sure of how you are going to apply this so, these are just few approaches you could work with. If you have minimal electronics abilities and have money to put into this, then check into National Instruments. They produce a line of computer interface boards that are mounted in your PC and simple graphically programmed software to operate the system. With this you can calibrate your sensors so the output data is in the form of values that make sense with what you are measuring. Pressure can be in PSI, Pascals, Bars and so on. Also, consider what you want to do with the data and the frequency at which you need to collect values. The National Instruments system would be able to storage your data to a file that can be opened to a spread sheet and collect data points at a frequency range of less than once a day to more than hundreds of times a second. If you do not have several thousand dollars to spend on this project and the frequency at which you are collecting values is slow, say 10 times a minute or less then the following system may work for you. Connect a voltmeter across the precision resistor you mentioned in your question. A digital multimeter can also be used to measure the sensor current directly, thus eliminating the resistor. In either case you will need to calibrate the sensor. To calibrate the sensor you will need to make at the least two measurements, one for the maximum measurement you expect and the second for the lowest measurement you expect. The measurements must be confirmed with known values, this is the critical part of calibration. If you are trying to calibrate a temperature sensor then use a thermometer that is in close contact with the sensor so, both are at the same temperature. The classic method for temperature calibration, places the sensor in melting ice water for 0deg C and boiling water for 100deg C (this assumes you are at sea level). When you take the calibration data you will have a voltage or current value for a defined condition (a given temperature, pressure, pH, ect.). You will use the difference to define a ratio of change in the condition for a change in the measured value plus an offset. The math: Vmin = voltage or current measurement for the minimum condition (temperature, pressure...) Vmax = voltage or current measurement for the maximum condition (temperature, pressure...) Cmin = minimum condition (temperature, pressure...) Cmax = maximum condition (temperature, pressure...) R = (Cmax - Cmin)/(Vmax - Vmin) example units deg C/volt, PSI/amps To convert a measured voltage (Vmeas) (or current) to condition value (Cmeas): Cmeas = Cmin + (R x (Vmeas- Vmin) ) For example: If we are calibrating a pressure sensor and a reliable pressure gauge is connected to the same pressure source as the sensor. The minimum reading is at 0PSI the digital multimeter reads 1.854volts. The pressure is raised to 14.7PSI and the meter reads 4.150 volts. Vmin = 1.854 Vmax = 4.150 Cmin = 0 Cmax = 14.7 R = (14.7 - 0) /(4.15 - 1.854) = 6.402 PSI/volt We then measure the pressure of another source with a sensor voltage of 2.450volts. Cmeas = 0 + (6.402 x (2.450 - 1.854)) = 3.816 PSI Because sensors can be "nonlinear" make as many calibration measurements between the minumum and maximum as feasible. You can use this data to create a lookup table or plot a chart relating the calibration measurements. The more nonlinear you sensor is the more the calibration points will differ from a straight line between the minimum and maximum calibration points. Nonlinearity adds error to the measurement. The comments on calibration applies to almost all methods of collecting data from sensors. A chart recorder is an old tech method and many were set up to interface with 4-20mA sensor. The Hobo data logger can also be used to collect sensor signals. Data loggers collect sensor data at set rate and cost from less than $100 to thousands. I hope this is of help. |
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Re: 4-20 milliamp circuits
From: aew-ga on 04 Nov 2002 14:13 PST |
You certianly have done your homework on the circuit. There are many different ways to measure and many different choices of instrumentation to perform the measurements. A good one stop source for many measurement needs from the sensor up to the software on the computer to collect the data and everything esle assocaited can be found at www.omega.com. The folks there are very good at helping you to identify a complete system to suit your needs. From thier products obviously but they have an excellent assortment. I would reccomend you visit thier site - check out some of the excellent documentation and illustrations on measurement systems - then call them and they can make sure you purchase the correct equipment which is compatible with your intentions and any existing hardware. My experinece with this company has been very good over the last five years of using them for lab research and actual equipment design and fabrication. If you care to provide more detail on the actual situation you are trying to measure I may be able to provide some advice on the type of insturmentation to pursue. The folks at Omega are quite capable of doing the same. |
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