http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/research/ven-guayana/clusiaceae/clusia.html
Above is a link I have found describing subject plant.
Question is: Latex or resin which comes out of this plant is incense?
is this a good incense or how does it rate in the market for incense?
If this is not incense, then what is this latex used for? how can this
product be used for a small business? |
Request for Question Clarification by
pelican-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 14:22 PST
I cannot find Clusia Spathulaefolia in any taxonomy of plants,
specifically in the Guyana-Venezuela region. I can find Clusia
macropoda: 10869. Some information on clusia macropoda:
Clusia macropoda Klotzsch ex Engl., Fl. Bras. 12(1): 406. 1888.
[Section Clusia]. Tree 4-8 m tall; latex yellow; buds pink. Riparian
forests, 0-50 m; Delta Amacuro (Caño Guayo near Misión San Francisco
de Guayo). Guyana, Suriname, French Guiana. The wood of this species
is used locally for making furniture.
Source:
http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/Research/ven-guayana/clusiaceae/page4.shtml
Do you think I am on the right track?
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Clarification of Question by
printerfriendly-ga
on
05 Nov 2002 16:25 PST
Not going in right track. I want to know confirmation as to what is
this latex or resin wich comes out of this three's trunk. Not the wood
but the resin. Is this resin used for incense?, how to process it? why
is its quality compared to other incense in market?
If it helps, this plant is from Colombia and it know as "Gaque" by its
local name.
Thanks.
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Request for Question Clarification by
pelican-ga
on
06 Nov 2002 14:55 PST
OK, so I moved to the west, and in Colombia I found Clusia multiflora
("gaque", also called "chagualo"). I cannot find any evidence that
the resin from this plant can be used for any commercial purpose (such
as processing it into incense). However, they serve to alleviate the
severe itching produced by bites from "niguas", an aggressive larva
which abides in the bulbs of the "gaque" flowers. The bulbs also serve
as food for a wide variety of birds.
Just to make sure I have found the right plant, the taxonomic
identification of Clusia multiflora ("gaque")is as follows:
Kingdom - Plantae
Group - Magnoliophyta
Class - Magnoliopsida
Order - Theales
Family - Clusiaceae
Gen - Clusia
Sp - multiflora
Most of the information sources are in either Spanish or Portuguese.
For example, in http://www.banrep.gov.co/blaavirtual/letra-f/frutos/glosa.doc,
we learn that:
Spanish:
"Árbol de flores fragantes, y hojas grandes, lucientes y hermosas, en
las cuales se puede escribir; produce una resina aromática, parecida a
la goma guta o al incienso y se emplea para librarse de las niguas."
My translation to English:
"Plant of flowers with fragance and large leaves, shining and
beautiful, in which it is possible to write; produces an aromatic
resin, similar to rubber or incense, and is used to get rid of
'ninguas'".
The following source states that "gaque" bulbs/flowers are eaten by
many birds:
http://www.banrep.gov.co/blaavirtual/letra-g/guiaves/cap4.htm
The following source describes the plant as one that is sticky and
releases a yellowish latex-like substance:
http://www.beekeeping.com/articulos/salamanca/flora_pradera.htm
The following source describes the "niguas" as larvae of "ácaros", and
the severe itching resulting from their bites:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/spanish/ency/article/001333.htm
The "ácaros" are very small and slow moving insects. They are
described in:
http://64.78.34.114/biobest/sp/plagen/bollenmijt.htm
And a photo and further description of these insects is available in:
http://pragas.terra.com.br/pragas/acaro/acaro_2.htm
In brief, very interesting, but I cannot find anything on the
commercial usage of the resin-like, sticky substance released by
"gaque" ... unless, it can be collected and conserved to be sold as a
"nigua repellent". If you have any suggestions to continue this
research, please let me know.
:-) It is good for me to practice my Spanish and Portuguese!
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Clarification of Question by
printerfriendly-ga
on
06 Nov 2002 16:39 PST
I had seen most links sent.
"produces an aromatic resin, similar to rubber or incense". This is
the key and in fact, nuns go to these trees since more than 100 years
ago to collect this resin and use it as incense.
My questions are:
How to confirm that this resin could be declared commercial incense?
How does it rate among other incense?
How is processed as incense sticks?
Thank you for your futher efforts.
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Request for Question Clarification by
pelican-ga
on
08 Nov 2002 19:40 PST
How to confirm that this resin could be declared commercial incense?
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If the nuns were using the resin from these trees as incense long ago,
then we know that it can be used as incense. But other issues may
need resolution before it can be declared commercial incense. For
example:
Legal issues -- Is it possible to obtain permits to collect the resin
from the trees? Are these trees in public lands or private
properties?
Market issues -- Is there a demand for this kind of incense? Do you
know about any marketing studies done for sizing this market?
How does it rate among other incense?
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What is the rating criteria? If the rating criterion is fragance, the
incense from this resin could be highly rated. Do you know about any
other rating criteria that I should investigate?
How is processed as incense sticks?
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There are several factors that will determine the feasability and cost
of producing sticks:
Can it be collected efficiently?
Is there local labor to do the collecting? Labor to do the
processing?
Is the conversion process from retins to incense more or less the same
for all other resins? If so, I would start using the same kind of
process, and I could try to find out what the "standard" process is.
Else, I could try to find out what the process should be (assuming
this is known), or what industrial R&D would be needed to develop a
process for this specific retin.
Hope you can help me to bound the scope of the research.
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Clarification of Question by
printerfriendly-ga
on
09 Nov 2002 08:44 PST
Good, OK. My answers are between >answer<
Thanks.
How to confirm that this resin could be declared commercial incense?
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If the nuns were using the resin from these trees as incense long ago,
then we know that it can be used as incense. But other issues may
need resolution before it can be declared commercial incense. For
example:
Legal issues -- Is it possible to obtain permits to collect the resin
from the trees? Are these trees in public lands or private
properties?
>Trees are in our property. I do not know if a licence or permit is
needed but will find out locally and do paperwork to get it.<
Market issues -- Is there a demand for this kind of incense?
Do you know about any marketing studies done for sizing this market?
>No. Do not know how to begin doing it. But people like to buy it to
make a fragrance in homes and in crowed rooms.<
How does it rate among other incense?
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What is the rating criteria? If the rating criterion is fragance, the
incense from this resin could be highly rated. Do you know about any
other rating criteria that I should investigate?
>I only know about fragrance. Would be interested in others.<
How is processed as incense sticks?
-----------------------------------
There are several factors that will determine the feasability and cost
of producing sticks:
Can it be collected efficiently? > Yes. <
Is there local labor to do the collecting? >Yes.<
Labor to do the processing? >Yes but would like tools to do it
faster<
Is the conversion process from retins to incense more or less the same
for all other resins? If so, I would start using the same kind of
process, and I could try to find out what the "standard" process is.
Else, I could try to find out what the process should be (assuming
this is known), or what industrial R&D would be needed to develop a
process for this specific retin. >OH
Hope you can help me to bound the scope of the research.
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