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Subject:
Traffic Violation
Category: Relationships and Society > Law Asked by: brianma25-ga List Price: $3.00 |
Posted:
04 Nov 2002 07:52 PST
Expires: 04 Dec 2002 07:52 PST Question ID: 98238 |
Hello, Is a Massachusetts State Police officer allowed to issue traffic citations while conducting a driving test? Thank You. | |
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Subject:
Re: Traffic Violation
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 04 Nov 2002 20:50 PST Rated: |
Dear brianma25-ga; Having a 20 plus year career law enforcement myself, I really enjoy researching these issues pertaining to the laws of the land. I am happy to oblige you. According to the GENERAL LAWS OF MASSACHUSETTS Chapter 22C: Section 12. Misdemeanors committed in presence of on-duty uniformed member; enforcement powers, to wit: - Any uniformed member of the state police may, upon view of any misdemeanor committed in his presence while on duty, arrest the person committing such misdemeanor, where such misdemeanor was committed in any building or grounds owned or occupied, wholly or in part by the commonwealth, or on streets adjacent to any such building, and shall enforce all traffic rules, regulations and ordinances on streets adjacent to buildings owned or occupied, wholly or in part, by the commonwealth. As you can see in the following passages, even if the officer had been off duty at the time, he still would have been authorized and (in his mind, apparently) justified in issuing a citation for a traffic violation that occurred in his presence: In generalizing various job descriptions in the United States, the US Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics makes this assessment of the law enforcement profession: In most jurisdictions, they are expected to exercise authority when necessary, whether on or off duty. According to Captain Tom Fitzgerald, commander of the Troop B barracks in Northampton, MA, For all intents and purposes, we're on duty 24 hours a day, seven days a week In short, the simple answer to your question is yes, according to state law, a Massachusetts State Police officer is indeed allowed to issue traffic citations while conducting a driving test or while performing in any other capacity for that matter. I hope this research proves useful to you. Good luck. Best regards; Tutuzdad-ga US Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics Police and Detectives http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos160.htm Valley Advocate Pistol-Packing at Packards By David Reid and Pippin Ross originally published on July 27, 1983 http://www.valleyadvocate.com/25th/archives/packing.html GENERAL LAWS OF MASSACHUSETTS CHAPTER 22C. THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE POLICE http://www.state.ma.us/legis/laws/mgl/gl-22C-toc.htm |
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I couldn't have asked for a more concise answer...Thank You! |
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Subject:
Re: Traffic Violation
From: flajason-ga on 04 Nov 2002 10:58 PST |
I don't know of any specific regulations on this subject, but you have to consider that the primary purpose of the police is to enforce public safety. Even in a learning or testing situation, any traffic violation that might constitute a danger (i.e. excessive speeding, running a light, crossing on a double line, etc...) to the public would probably result in a citation. I would like to think that most officers would appreciate the situation and let the offender off with only a warning, but it is at their discrection. |
Subject:
Re: Traffic Violation
From: flajason-ga on 05 Nov 2002 07:02 PST |
Having read the specifics of your situation, I can understand better now. I had a very similar situation occur a few years back. I originally interpreted that you were the operator of the vehicle taking a driving test when you received the ticket. A few years back while driving to work I was on a two lane road in a semi-residential area. (there were no houses directly on the street, but access roads to subdivisions every couple of blocks) The speed limit on that road was 35mph. A car in front of me was travelling at about 15mph. There were no indications that he was turning or stopping, he was just crawling along. (BTW, as my handle indicates, I live in Florida, infamous for it's elderly drivers and voting problems) Another motorist in front of me passed him, and I followed shortly after it was clear. I will admit that I passed on a double line, but given the situation, the slower travelling car was probably causing a greater hazard. The road remained a double line until the next intersection about a half mile further. However the road was straight with no hills or curves. It is marked double yellow probably due to the frequency of side streets. And of course, there was a motorcycle officer parked off to the side about 1/4 mile up the road who stopped both myself and the driver in front of me who had also passed the slow-driver. I was issued a citation, as you were, for unlawful passing. (I seem to remember the fine was something like $50 at the time) In hindsight, I would have liked to have fought the ticket, but I was working on contract at the time and it would have cost more for me to take time off work to go to court than to money I would have saved if I had won a judgement. I am considering asking the question of whether the student car would be at fault also as it was causing a hazard by travelling at an unsafe speed (I assume the road you were on was not a 20 or even 20mph road. Maybe a 40mph or faster?), and whether the student driver, even under the direction of the state trooper was authorized to speed (I assume it had to to catch up with you) as it is not a properly marked emergency vehichle. I'll probably do a bit of research myself before deciding whether to post this question. |
Subject:
Re: Traffic Violation
From: brianma25-ga on 05 Nov 2002 17:02 PST |
I had similar thoughts as to the driving school car traveling at such a slow speed. If it had been a farm vehicle would I still have been cited? Unfortunately the officer insisted that the car was traveling at least 30 when I passed them. Also the road had no lines on it and was not posted as a no-passing zone. Another point that I thought was interesting was that he took away my license and registration yet insisted I drive to the registry so that he could write me a ticket........ |
Subject:
Re: Traffic Violation
From: tutuzdad-ga on 05 Nov 2002 17:24 PST |
The fact that the officer took your license and still allowed you to drive is irrelevant. Since he had proof that you are a licensed driver the mere fact that you temporarily did not have posession of your license while driving is a non-issue. As for the trip to the station...in your state a traffic citation is issued in lieu of bond, meaning that you did have the option of saying "no" when he asked you to go with him, in which case he could have excersized his option to place you under physical arrest (police record), tow your car (towing bill) and make you post bond (big bucks) to get out of jail (lunch with "bubba")rather than just paying the ticket and gooing your merry way. The court then, (assuming you had lost your case before a judge) would have accessed you additional "court costs" (even bigger bucks than the ticket) over and above your fine and you would have lost in many more ways than one. Count your blessings. |
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