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Subject:
Severe Spam Attack
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: templatestyles-ga List Price: $50.00 |
Posted:
04 Nov 2002 22:13 PST
Expires: 04 Dec 2002 22:13 PST Question ID: 99044 |
Hello, We own and operate www.templatestyles.com and we encountered a severe problem with a person/group that send spam on the net in our name. The spammer use different servers that allow SMTP relay. First attacks were made in July - August 2002. At that time the spammer used our emails (@templatestyles.com) as return addresses. Since couple of days the spammer use random emails as return addresses including the above ones. We believe that the spammer is one of our competitors that try to discredit our company. We have discussed with SpamCop.net and other organizations that dealing with spam issues. All of them told us: "you have to wait until the storm is over". We had to move from a hosting provider to another (4 times now), our email accounts are blocked (spam lists) and we received 1000's complains. Please find below the emails/spam (just an example): July - August 2002 Return-Path: <info@templatestyles.com> Received: from [217.206.43.154] (HELO QRJATYDI) by jfkadatc.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b5) with SMTP id 123261 for blacklist-admin@jfkadatc.net@blacklisted; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:59:06 -0400 From: info@templatestyles.com To: <blacklist-admin@jfkadatc.net> Subject: Nice web page templates here. Check it out! X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:23:39 +-0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Message-ID: <auto-000000123261@jfkadatc.net> Hello, I was recently browsing the internet and came accross some guys that are making really good job. Here they are - www.templatestyles.com . Check it out. Nice designs! yorth sincerely, Mark Boen Lowen ------------------------------- November 2002 Received: from 189.44.26.24.cfl.rr.com [24.26.44.189] by server158 (SMTPD32-7.00) id AC6D17D200CA; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:43:41 -0800 Return-Path: <info@templatestyles.com> Received: from mailexcite.com (prodigy.com [193.112.163.240]) by msn.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id 32061 for <webmaster@pivideo.com>; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:45:23 +0000 From: "chsk" <ci@earthlink.net> To: "" <webmaster@pivideo.com> Subject: I have visited your site... X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.39) Educational Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:45:23 +0000 Message-ID: <1989716263zhepdvwhuCslylghr1frp@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-RCPT-TO: <webmaster@pivideo.com> Status: U X-UIDL: 329102394 I have visited your site and I think that design looks not good now. Here we are - www.templatestyles.com . Check it out! We have hired 2 new designers from Indonesia. They rocks! Swap your current design on ours. Aby Sultan, www.templatestyles.com Marketing staff info@templatestyles.com This is just the short version of the story. There MUST be a way to find the real spammer and to stop the attacks. Any Gurus around here? We need a solution. We are waiting for your reply. Kind regards, TemplateStyles.com Team |
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Subject:
Re: Severe Spam Attack
Answered By: watershed-ga on 05 Nov 2002 01:12 PST |
Hello Templatestyles, Thanks for your question. I am sorry to hear about your difficulties. Spammers are very difficult to stop, as you well know. It seems that your only real option may be legal action. From examining the second message, assuming the header information is complete, the message appears to have originated from this address: 193.112.163.240, which is owned by PSINET. The other information for that header entry, "mailexcite.com (prodigy.com", appears to be faked. Your first stop in determining the identity of the spammer may be to write a letter to abuse@uk.psi.com. I would send the complete text of your second example, plus any other examples that contain addresses owned by PSINET. You can determine if an address is owned by PSINET by looking for addresses in your other records of the spam e-mails that start with 193.112 and inputting those addresses into the RIPE database at: (http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/whois/whois.html) Please note that the RIPE database services countries in Europe, Central Asia, the Middle East and Africa. If you would like to query for American addresses, you should use the ARIN database at: (whois.arin.net) It will take some detective work to track the person or persons down. I would gather as many of these spam e-mails as possible and look for commonalities. To determine which information is real or faked is not easy, but it is possible. For instance, in your second example: Received: from 189.44.26.24.cfl.rr.com [24.26.44.189] by server158 (SMTPD32-7.00) id AC6D17D200CA; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:43:41 -0800 Return-Path: <info@templatestyles.com> Received: from mailexcite.com (prodigy.com [193.112.163.240]) by msn.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id 32061 for <webmaster@pivideo.com>; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:45:23 +0000 Pretty much everything below these entries can be discarded as false. I am assuming server158 is your mail server, and that rr.com is your provider. The addresses mailexcite.com and prodigy.com do not match the address in the brackets and can be assumed to be false. I have found in my experience that the IP address within the brackets is usually correct. Using the WHOIS databases, you should be able to determine who owns the address, and almost all ISPS have an abuse department that you can write to. It may be a slow going process but considering the impact it is having on your business, I am sure you will find most ISPS very cooperative and helpful. I have found several excellent sources of references for tracking spam, and taking action against spammers for your perusal. The Spam Tracking Page http://www.rahul.net/falk/ Spam Source Tracking http://email.about.com/cs/spamtracking/index.htm SpamCon Foundation http://www.spamcon.org http://law.spamcon.org/ http://www.spamcon.org/directories/faqs.shtml Tracking Spam http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l/tracking.html IP Tracking Tutorial http://www.randam-art.com/tutorial/iptracking.htm Search Terms Used: spam tracking, spam law Search Engine Used: www.google.com In regards to being blacklisted, you only really have two options. There isn't a centralized database for spammers; there are many different lists and vigilantes run most of them. You could change your Internet address, which besides being inconvenient, probably would not help since the person who is trying to sabotage your business would just use the new address instead. You could also write to each of the larger blacklists and explain the situation. I don't know how easy or difficult that may be, but I think your situation is not a rare one so it should be easy to convince them to remove you. Here are some databases that I have found: dmoz http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Abuse/Spam/Blacklists/ Google Web Directory http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Internet/Abuse/Spam/Blacklists/ TotalWebShop.com http://www.totalwebshop.com/links/Abuse/Spam/Blacklists/ I am sorry I do not have any sort of magic-bullet type of solution for you. There really is not much you can do about spam besides trying to trace the source and file legal action against them. I hope that this helps. Best Regards, watershed-ga |
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Subject:
Re: Severe Spam Attack
From: sparky4ca-ga on 04 Nov 2002 22:27 PST |
First and foremost, place a large, prominent notice on your homepage stating that you didn't send the spam, that you aren't affiliated with the spammer in any way, and that you apologise for the inconvenience. I would then ask that people forward you the spam that they received. Have them turn on all headers first, and provide instructions. When you have emails with the full headers, then you can begin trying to track the spammers. |
Subject:
Re: Severe Spam Attack
From: templatestyles-ga on 04 Nov 2002 22:37 PST |
Hello sparky4ca, Thank you for your reply. We have added a disclaimer page since the first attacks occurs. You are not able to load our website now, because it's down. We moved to another hosting provider and our site will be back online in max. 12 hours. We need a solution. Kind regards, TemplateStyles.com Team |
Subject:
Re: Severe Spam Attack
From: hailstorm-ga on 04 Nov 2002 23:00 PST |
Wow, I've gotten about a dozen of these spams. Glad to hear that you guys don't think my site is "not so good" after all! :-) Unfortuately, I've deleted all the recent ones I've received, but if it would help, I will post header information of any future spams I receive. |
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