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Subject: Career advice
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: nova165-ga
List Price: $4.50
Posted: 05 Nov 2002 11:02 PST
Expires: 05 Dec 2002 11:02 PST
Question ID: 99519
I have a problem! I don't know what to do. I don't know what career
path to choose. I recently got laid off as a marketing and event
coordinator. I loved the job, I got to travel, stay in fancy hotels,
and meet new people. but I feel it is time for me to go on. I am
thinking of going back to school but not sure what to study. I have
considered Law school, or graduate school to become a professor in
academia. International Studies are very interesting to me, but not
because of the content but because of the fact that I get to learn
about other cultures and people from other countries. I am not sure if
Law school is for me, although after I got my undergraduate degree I
wanted to go back to school and study law. However before I commit
myself to it I need to make sure its something I want to do.
On the other hand I love to travel, and I love to be in social
gatherings, dressing up, meeting new people, sipping on drinks.

I don't know what to do. Other areas I have considered are, Interior
Decorator, and Fashion. Money is also important but having a glamorous
job is just as important... Can anyone help me? Is there anything else
out there that I am not away of?
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Subject: Re: Career advice
Answered By: leeann-ga on 08 Nov 2002 08:10 PST
 
Nova165-ga:

Hi! What an interesting question and a coincidence... I myself found
myself at a similar place not too long ago, and my interests and
lifestyle habits are much like your own.

Let me tell you a little about myself first before I give my advice so
you know where I am coming from. First of all, I got my bachelor's in
international affairs, with minors in Japanese and Spanish. I wanted
to travel the world, meet people, and clink glasses with the best. I
spent some time living in Madrid, which was an amazing experience and
made me realize that living abroad or travelling abroad was a must for
my lifestyle. Of course, reality happens and I ended up working as a
litigation clerk for a law firm after graduation.

It seems like me, you are conflicted between having a prestigious job
(in the sense of intellectually challenging as well as well reputed)
and having a glamorous job. The problem is that most intellectually
invigorating jobs (i.e. a job in academia) are somewhat stale and
boring, the lifestyle lends itself to being bookish and reclusive.
Many glamorous jobs are not within easy reach or may not satisfy your
intellectual side.

I made the decision that I could have both if I buckled down for a
couple years... I ultimately decided to go the law school for a J.D.
in International Law (which tends to be more interesting because the
issues are not just about international trade and such, but subjects
like "the ethics of war"). Following completion of this, I would seek
to procure a position at a major thinktank like the Council on Foreign
Relations (offices in NYC and DC)... a position that would require
travel, embassy events (sipping drinks and social events),
consultation with diplomats and people in high positions from various
countries, and the opportunity to write articles for prestigious
publications. These positions are extremely "public" positions as well
as influential. These positions pay well, come with many perks (for
example, I know that the employees of the Council on Foreign Relations
get discounts for Broadway shows, etc.). The options for career
advancement are quite good too, as ex-thinktankers tend to either go
work for the government as a diplomat, advisor to the president, etc.
or go work in the private sector as a professor (so when you get older
and your body finally catches up to your youthful enthusiasm, you have
a good fallback!).

Of course, just because I made this decision, does not mean that you
have to do this as well. It just happens that a position such as this
would fulfill your various requirements, of course, a 3 year hiatus
from the high life to go to law school would be required. Also, in the
last year or so, law school applications have skyrocketed and
admissions will be more competitive than in years past.

Alternatives I considered:

- Find a position at an Embassy or U.S. Consulate abroad
- Get an MBA or skip it if you can find a position without it in the
international department of a major company.

I hope this helps. I know how hard it can be to find the perfect
balance, but I've found that going with your gut on this one is
probably the best way to go.

Good Luck, and please feel free to ask for clarification if something
is not clea!

leeann-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by nova165-ga on 11 Nov 2002 13:14 PST
Thank you for your answer. I have considered International Law in the
past. I love international studies and it has always been exciting for
me to learn about the UN, the World Bank and other international
organizations. My challenge on the other hand would be the fact that
English is my second language. I always feel that there will be so
many other candidates for law schools and (later) jobs that will have
that advantage over me. I speak Farsi, of course I will be able to
leverage that and get involved with an international entity
eventually, however will all these entities be in the east? Do I have
to move to DC and NY? OR is it possible to get a job with an
organization and work in San Francisco? an embassy job has always
intrigued me. Do I need to know other languages to work for an
embassy?

Clarification of Answer by leeann-ga on 11 Nov 2002 14:38 PST
Hi Nova165!

"My challenge on the other hand would be the fact that
English is my second language. I always feel that there will be so
many other candidates for law schools and (later) jobs that will have
that advantage over me. "

While this is a valid concern, judging from your English in asking
your question and the dialogue you have provided, your English is
excellent (I would not have guessed that English is your second
language). Frankly, I have found that people who are at least
bi-lingual have an advantage over the average American, especially in
this field. In the short run, I can see that it might be a small
problem with regards to the LSAT, however, you can surely overcome
that by studying for the LSAT through classes... I have found that it
is harder to overcome the analytical and structural issues the LSAT
presents, not vocabulary. You could also use the fact that English is
your second language to your advantage by writing your personal
statement for the application around the difficulties that this has
presented you, but how you are willing to do whatever it takes to
overcome that hurdle.

"I speak Farsi, of course I will be able to
leverage that and get involved with an international entity
eventually, however will all these entities be in the east? Do I have
to move to DC and NY? OR is it possible to get a job with an
organization and work in San Francisco?"

These entities are not necessarily located in the East, but are
concentrated there. Once you gain a certain amount of prestige, you
could even work as a contractor for a publication or organization and
work from home (e-commuting per se). Also, you must realize that most
of these entities have offices in many of the major U.S. cities,
including cities such as Seattle, San Francisco and L.A. It also
depends on your expertise. If, for example, you have a certain special
area of knowledge (in this case, Farsi could help you), organizations
are willing to hire you despite the fact you live far away.
E-commuting like this is becoming a much more common phenomena as the
internet shortens the distance between people.

"an embassy job has always
intrigued me. Do I need to know other languages to work for an
embassy?"

You do not need to know another language to work for an embassy,
although it would be helpful to have an elementary knowledge of the
other language. Since this position would be helping U.S. citizens
abroad, English would be paramount. Many people use embassy jobs as a
way to learn about another culture and/or language. Too increase your
chances of going somewhere like Spain, or somewhere that is completely
foreign to you, you would do well to take a short course on that
language.

Some more useful links regarding working for an embassy... check out:
http://www.foreignservicecareers.gov/
http://www.usembassy.state.gov/ (lists all the countries where we have
embassies or consulates).

Best Luck,

leeann-ga
Comments  
Subject: Re: Career advice
From: politicalguru-ga on 05 Nov 2002 11:07 PST
 
I would hardly consider work in Academia, or the years and effort you
have to give to have one, as glamarous.

You have to think: 
- How much effort am I willing to dedicate to the change? 
- What are my other skills? (writing? imaging? people skills? etc).
Subject: Re: Career advice
From: revbrenda1st-ga on 05 Nov 2002 11:20 PST
 
Hi Nova,

It occurs to me that you know HOW you want to live -- in high style --
but you aren't sure what career path will get you there. There's
surely nothing wrong with wanting the good life if you are willing to
work to achieve it.

Having said that, I'd like to make a suggestion. Before you commit
yourself, why not find out what research says about what
qualifications, experience, and professions will be most in demand in
the future? I recall that a few years ago, I saw a statistic that
travel agents would be in high demand, due to the growth of an aging
population. (Baby boomers getting ready to retire.)

"The Occupational Outlook Handbook is a nationally recognized source
of career information, designed to provide valuable assistance to
individuals making decisions about their future work lives.  Revised
every two years, the Handbook describes what workers do on the job,
working conditions, the training and education needed, earnings, and
expected job prospects in a wide range of occupations."

Occupational Outlook Handbook, 2002-03 Edition
http://www.bls.gov/oco/home.htm
Perhaps you'd like something in the tourist industry -- maybe cruise
ship related, etc.

Regards,
revbrenda1st
Subject: Re: Career advice
From: flajason-ga on 05 Nov 2002 12:08 PST
 
Have you considered becoming a travel agent or something in that
field?

Your marketing background could be applied to that field, and it would
seem to fit your desire to interact socially and travel.
I wouldn't classify it as the most glamourous job, but there are
exceptions (i.e. high income/high profile areas like Hollywood, New
York, Palm Beach, etc.)

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