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Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency by Douglas Adams
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Books and Literature Asked by: mxnmatch-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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17 Nov 2002 17:03 PST
Expires: 17 Dec 2002 17:03 PST Question ID: 109555 |
I'm a big fan of all 7 fiction books written by Douglas Adams. However, I have never understood the ending to Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. Why does causing Coleridge to not write the rest of the poem "The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner" cause the ghost to not destroy the human race? I actually went and read that poem and now I at least know where the Albatross references come from, but I still don't understand the ending. |
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Re: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency by Douglas Adams
Answered By: pinkfreud-ga on 17 Nov 2002 17:32 PST Rated: ![]() |
You'll find quite a lot of analytic material on this subject in the delightful alt.fan.douglas-adams newsgroup: "Can someone explain the ending to Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency? Here are two postings which explain it best: From: bhack@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Brendan Hack) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1991 23:08:13 GMT First of all you need to know something about Coleridge. There was never a second part of the poem _Kubla Khan_. Yet, at the end of Chapter 6 when The Director Of English Studies is reading _Kubla Khan_ the book says 'The voice (that of the director of english studies) continues, reading the second, and altogether strange part of the poem.' In the book, _Kubla Khan_ has a second part. The book is not actually set in our existance. It is set in an existance in which the second part of _Kubla Khan_ exists. This second part of the poem tells the ghost about the existance of the time machine and how to travel back and stop the ship from exploding. As we well know the explosion of the ship is what caused life to begin on this miserable little planet of ours. When Dirk and Reg realised this they simply went forward in time to when Coleridge was writing the second part of _Kubla Khan_ and stopped him. Dirk just interrupted him and talked so much that Coleridge forgot what the second part was going to be about and therefore could not finish it! This change of history sent reality back into our perspective and the human race lived on (Yay, yippee!). Quite simple really. From: Torsten.Lif@eos.ericsson.se (Torsten Lif) The second part of KK was written by Coleridge *while possesed by the ghost* and is the ghost providing info, not the other way around. I think the info is about the ship that is still in orbit around Earth. By confusing Coleridge (and introducing the albatross that then appears in the Ancient Mariner), Dirk got rid of the directions to find the orbiting spaceship (which they also sabotaged, but not until Reg had stolen some music [by bringing Bach there?]). Since they aparently had access to suitable explosives (the spaceship blew up in such a spectacular fashion that it could be seen from Earth), maybe it was also they who sabotaged the ghost's shuttle so that it all got started, too?" Newsgroup post, alt.fan.douglas-adams: Douglas Adams FAQ http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=alt.fan.douglas-adams_703252834%40kauri.vuw.ac.nz&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain "Having just read the faq, the explanation there does not agree with my explanation. (My apologies if this has been discussed before). The faq seems to imply that the second part of the poem describes the time machine and things, which seems a bit of a jump to make. My explanation is that becuase the second part of the poem never gets written, it never gets read out at the dinner, so the little girl never gets bored, so Reg never uses the time machine to do the trick with the pot, which needed him to go to the planet with the sand to hide his tan, which is what allowed the ghost to do something vital." Newsgroup thread, alt.fan.douglas-adams: "Ending to Dirk Gently's H.D.A" http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&th=98c7e1d0390f74cb&rnum=2 I hope this helps. Thanks for asking an interesting question. I am going to hunt down my copy of DGHDA tonight and dive in for a refresher course! My Google search strategy: Google Groups: "dirk gently's" ending http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22dirk+gently%27s%22+ending&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en If either of the links above does not function, or if you need anything more, please request clarification before rating my answer, and I'll gladly offer further assistance. So long (and thanks for all the fish), pinkfreud | |
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mxnmatch-ga
rated this answer:![]() Thanks! I guess those answers are as good as any, but they're still not particularly satisfying. I guess I'll just have to accept that it was the journey that was important, not the destination. I still love that book along with the other 6. |
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Re: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency by Douglas Adams
From: mathtalk-ga on 17 Nov 2002 22:01 PST |
Thanks to mxnmatch for the neat question and to pinkfreud for the equally neat research. Three brief comments: Adams' fictional device of the "second, and altogether stranger part" of Kubla Khan has historical root in the 1816 preface Samuel Taylor Coleridge provided to his "poem", in which he describes it as an unfinished fragment of a larger work that occured to him spontaneously and with totality while under the influence of opium. There he blames the inability to record more than the small initial portion of this conception to interruption by a "man from Porlock". Naturally Coleridge's claim has been the subject of considerable literary speculation: http://www.eiu.edu/~multilit/studyabroad/lyricalballads/comp3d.htm The Dirk Gently tale has many similarities to a Doctor Who episode (featuring the Tom Baker Doctor and Romana II) set in Paris and involving a climax in which a spaceship explodes on a prebiotic Earth (presumably sparking the seeds of life here). Douglas Adams wrote episodes of Doctor Who, and the plot similarities make me suspect this might have been one of his. Finally, we can add a eighth book to the Douglas Adams' opus: The Salmon of Doubt, published posthumously. It consists of varied essays and creative writing, including a fragment of a fictional work in progress from which the book takes its name. regards, mathtalk |
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Re: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency by Douglas Adams
From: wolvies-ga on 18 Nov 2002 04:57 PST |
'City of Death' is the Dr Who story you refer to and was indeed written by Adams. In addition, the scene with the sofa on the staircase (can't recall if thats Holistic Detec.. or Long Dark Teatime) had also been penned by Adams for another Dr Who story he wrote for Tom Baker, the never-completed Shada (which you can nevertheless get on video with narrated in-between bits) |
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Re: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency by Douglas Adams
From: politicalguru-ga on 18 Nov 2002 08:26 PST |
And may I add, as a big Adams fan, a big "thank you" to Pink and all other commentators. I always wondered about the ending of DJHDA myself. |
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Re: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency by Douglas Adams
From: sian-ga on 18 Nov 2002 13:08 PST |
The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner is sublime! I especially enjoy Coleridge's description of the woman dicing with Death in the phantom ship because it never fails to effectively evoke the chthonic beauty and power of Leucothea (i.e., the White Goddess): Her lips were red, her looks were free, Her locks were yellow as gold, Her skin was white as leprosy. The Nightmare Life-in-Death was she, Who thicks man's blood with cold. As for the brilliant pinkfreud, she never fails to provide the customer with a superb answer! |
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