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Please diagnose this disorder or problem.
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: sugarsweet-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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01 Jan 2003 08:16 PST
Expires: 31 Jan 2003 08:16 PST Question ID: 135960 |
I would like a disorder diagnosed. Someone who seems to lie all the time to make a better self image of himself. If you confront him he goes into rages. Will never admit to lieing. Want's to be around people of power and success. Has goals that seem like he is living in a dream word. Will take advantage of people to get there. |
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Re: Please diagnose this disorder or problem.
From: pinkfreud-ga on 01 Jan 2003 08:41 PST |
It is, of course, not possible to diagnose this person over the Internet from a brief description. One possibility is Narcissistic Personality Disorder (also known as Pathological Narcissism.) http://www.geocities.com/ptypes/narcissisticpd.html |
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Re: Please diagnose this disorder or problem.
From: starrebekah-ga on 01 Jan 2003 22:33 PST |
I'm not a psychologist (merely a psychology college student) and I want you to keep that in mind - but it totally sounds like a sociopath to me! Sociopaths are very smooth people. Smooth-talkers, they are usually very well-dressed, and are great salespeople. They will lie, cheat, and steal - and often get so caught up in their lifestyles that they don't realize that there is anything wrong about what they are doing. Some will even laugh at you, when you suggest that there is something wrong with them. Here are some signs, or characteristics of sociopathic behavior: * Superficial Charm * Grandiose Sense of Self (they see themselves as greater than others see them) * Pathological Lying * NO Sense of shame or guilt (like I said, they will laugh at you) * Shallowness * Inability to love, or feel real emotion * Impulsiveness/Recklessness * Lack of Realistic Life Plan (head in the clouds type thing) Again, to me, from the type of people I've experienced and dealt with, I do strongly believe that this is a sociopath. But, again, I'm not a psychologist (yet) nor do I have access to this particular person, only what you perceive. Here are some other links that may help you in your "diagnosis": http://home.datawest.net/esn-recovery/artcls/socio.htm http://members.tripod.com/lheanna/sociopat.htm http://www.drirene.com/catbox/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=2197 And, remember - if this person IS a sociopath - confronting him may be potentially dangerous for you. If you are in a position where you HAVE to make sure that he seeks professional help (parent, spouse, or child) - you may try to "force" or "persuade" the person to seek help. But - sociopaths will never admit that they have a problem, so that is the hardest thing to do. They may be agitated by this confrontation, and often may become violent - with NO fear of consequence. My best advice is to stay away from this person if possible. I hope this was of help to you, and please let me know if I can assist you further! Good Luck with your friend, -Rebekah |
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Re: Please diagnose this disorder or problem.
From: alex_p-ga on 01 Jan 2003 22:49 PST |
It's also possible that he is either manic, or manic-depresseive (also known as bipolar disorder). If you think this may be the case, here are a couple of links. http://www.medhelp.org/HealthTopics/Mania.html http://mentalhelp.net/poc/center_index.php?id=4 |
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Re: Please diagnose this disorder or problem.
From: sublime1-ga on 02 Jan 2003 00:19 PST |
sugarsweet... Having spent 20 years in the field of mental health, I'd like to take the opportunity to validate both pinkfreud-ga's and alex_p-ga's responses as legitimate possibilities. As for starrebekah-ga's comment, she disqualifies her own assessment when she notes: "* Inability to love, or feel real emotion" A true sociopath would not become enraged, as you note having occurred. Instead, again in starrebekah-ga's words: "* NO Sense of shame or guilt (like I said, they will laugh at you)" She, quite accurately, depicts the likely response of a true sociopath, which is to belittle your concerns, rather than becoming outraged. This is more likely to leave the concerned party outraged, rather than the sociopath. bookmanswake-ga's diagnosis is still uncertain, pending further posts, or a formal question regarding same. Best wishes, sublime1-ga |
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Re: Please diagnose this disorder or problem.
From: meego-ga on 02 Jan 2003 21:59 PST |
Narcissist, plain and classic! Run, run while you can! Meego |
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Re: Please diagnose this disorder or problem.
From: steph53-ga on 05 Jan 2003 23:04 PST |
Sugarsweet.. If this person cannot feel love or reality... Let it/him/her go........... not worth it in the long run...... Life is still there just to be lived!!!!!!! Let go and find yourself........ A wonderful thing to do...... |
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Re: Please diagnose this disorder or problem.
From: starrebekah-ga on 06 Jan 2003 21:37 PST |
Just to answer Sublime's comment - often, especially with something as individual as Psychology, one person may not meet ALL characteristics of a diagnosis, but MOST of them. That is true when you are characterizing anything -- it is a characterization, not an 100% accurate portrayal. So, if "inability to love, or feel real emotion" is not one of the qualities of this person in question, that does not rule out a sociopathic personality disorder. Along those lines, it says "inability to love OR feel real emotion" - it doesn't say they feel NO emotion or NO rage, but that they have problems having the deep, meaningful relationships & emotions that normal people have. Obviously this person in question is having a problem having a relationship with you. Is this person manic depressive? Possible. Anything is possible. But the way you described it, it jumped out as sociopathic behavior (narcissistic is also a possibility, although the two are kind of similar in ways) - when you were talking about the "self-image" (could be either). The REAL kicker though, for me, was when you said "will never admit to lying." That is clear cut Sociopath. A noted example of a sociopath, and perhaps the most famous, would be Richard Nixon. (If that gives you an idea ;)) A few more things to consider. If this person is manic-depressive, you want to look for periods of depression, followed by "manic" periods where they can "do no wrong" seem/feel "invincable", etc. An example of this might be someone that goes joyriding at excessive speeds, goes out drinking/other promiscuous behavior, etc. It's not always SO outrageous, but it definitely a complete change from the depression. These depressive/manic periods go in and out, like a roller coaster (although the mania may last longer than the depression, or vice versa). I didn't think you described anything like that in your person (and I think it would be a PROMINENT thing) - but perhaps you just omitted some things from your short description. Hope this helps! -Rebekah |
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